Woman harassed in women's bathroom by a gender critical woman who thinks she is trans, she is upset by the experience.

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And frankly the reason it happened is due to extremist GC activists inciting and exhorting their followers to engage in this sort of confrontational behaviour and harassment.

The reason this happens is because men use women's facilities.

Who is doing this?

Ladybrrrd · Today 10:23

Saying that it’s only to “leverage males into female single sex spaces” is dismissive and disingenuous.

Yes. I dismiss the arguments around ‘what about these transitioned females using toilets’ because they are a lazy ‘gotcha’. Because they are done as if this is an symmetrical scenario.

But it is not symmetrical.

There were plenty of females in the government that were full participants in this & agreed to it.

When? Decades ago when the first males started using female toilets? When predominately male clinicians told males it was ok for them to use female single sex spaces?

Or are you talking about females in parliament who were led to believe it was very few males and mainly males with their penises removed?

In 2020 research conducted as part of NatCen's British Social Attitudes survey found that 66% of women said they were comfortable with a transgender person using a female bathroom.

Was that the same one that dramatically swung to majority disagree when it was stated it was without penises?

She also says “it’s a boy and I’m not putting up with this”

yes, her statements were contradictory and illogical. As if she was the creation of an illogical mind full of contradictions and very low on cognitive empathy. Almost like… a TRA interpretation of a GC person.

SlouchingTowardsBethlehemAgain · Today 13:47
The aggressor in that video is absolutely horrible - it is beyond nasty to treat another woman like that. I am a cis woman and very obviously female and I have had a very unpleasant interaction with a woman calling me a man in the ladies loo. These bullying GC feminists should stop and think before they attack people.

I am very sorry this happened to you, Slouching, and think it was very wrong. But why do you say it was bullying GC feminist who behaved that way to you?

GC feminists are the last people to divide people into ‘masculine’ and ‘feminine’ looking; and also often speak with regret that there are now fewer ‘butch’ lesbians, (who might possibly be mistaken for a man in a ladies’ lavatory), because of lesbians feeling a pressure to be transgender. Or a transman might be in there. It doesn’t make sense to conclude that GC feminists would confront another woman in this way.

Women who are not GC are very worried about men being in women’s spaces. Some will over- react unfortunately.

Do you have a penis or not? That will indicate which facilitates you should be using.

What Hepwo said.

If ALL male people could just respect that female spaces are not for them, women wouldn’t need to police those spaces.

Males need to fuck off and leave women alone.

Strangely though this wasn’t happening when TW were using womens toilets before the call to action to confront and harass by GC leaders….

So for there to be a cause/effect relationship….the cause must create the effect from the beginning.

GC leaders?

Who?

😂😂😂 Nice try at gaslighting.

How is that gaslighting?

An alternative perception is not the same thing as trying to make another person feel discombobulated as an abusive behaviour.

If ALL male people could just respect that female spaces are not for them, women wouldn’t need to police those spaces.
Males need to fuck off and leave women alone.

This. Job done.

Strangely though this wasn’t happening when TW were using womens toilets before the call to action to confront and harass by GC leaders….

So for there to be a cause/effect relationship….the cause must create the effect from the beginning.

we have leaders? Who??.

What I don't get is: given that women want to protect the women-only spaces, why wouldn't a (real) woman just answer the question with "I'm a woman" to end the debate? Why argue/challenge and make it a big deal?

@Iguanainanigloo Do you have a penis or not? That will indicate which facilitates you should be using.

What a horrible thing to say when I have stated that I am a cis woman who was bullied by someone just like you in the ladies loo - you enjoy joining in with the bullying. Shame on you.

I’m just confused what a cis woman is @Iguanainanigloo so I’m sure other posters are too. That’s the problem when you muddle the meanings of words. Do you identify as an atom or as you saying you’re a member of the Construction industry scheme?

Strangely though this wasn’t happening when TW were using womens toilets before the call to action to confront and harass by GC leaders….

So for there to be a cause/effect relationship….the cause must create the effect from the beginning.

I'm afraid you cannot make a credible "wasn't happening* claim. Protests about men in woman's facilities have gone back decades, it didn't start 5 minutes ago, which is how long the peculiar "GC" label has been around.

The cause of women's anger at men using women's facilities is men using women's facilities.

Bullshit all you like but we won't believe it.

If you want third spaces, why aren't you being a trans ally and helping your trans comrades campaign for them?

And frankly the reason it happened is due to extremist GC activists inciting and exhorting their followers to engage in this sort of confrontational behaviour and harassment.

Yeah, those pesky fucking women who just refuse to roll over and allow males to colonise the spaces they fought for? So damn 'confrontational' and 'extremist'.

Because it’s even more dangerous for them in the male facilities.

So let's get this straight, women should be allowing any male who says he identifies as a woman into their spaces, but transwomen couldn't possibly use the men's because that would mean...sharing with males? And thats dangerous? Anyway earlier you were saying that the sign on the door doesn't mean anything and if a man wants to hurt someone he will do it anyway, so surely by that logic transwomen are no safer in the ladies than in the men's anyway.

Strangely though this wasn’t happening when TW were using womens toilets before the call to action to confront and harass by GC leaders….

No. Point the finger of blame where it belongs - at the Yanivs, the Muscatos, the Drummonds, the Izzards, the aggressive, abusive chanters of the mantra anyone is a woman who says they are one, the prominent TW who despite a perfectly acceptable gender neutral option provided for their use use the designated female single sex option and then brag about their refusal to respect the boundaries of women on social media, the TW who take delight in using women's toilets to film themselves masturbating and then upload it onto social media sites with the background noise of children.

Is there any evidence at all of transwomen being assaulted in men's toilets? I've never seen any but I'd be interested to know how prevalent it is, particularly as it's so often cited as a reason for women acting as human shields for them.

"I have been called out several times for being in the mens room' ?

What the hell?

"Figure out your identity in your bedroom and then project it on everyone else and we'll accept it?"

"Lets go get security, lets do harass"- and security was immediately outside the door?

What the hell (I say again)

Makes no sense. Why would a GC person care about the (clearly a woman from the voice) identity of the person? If they care about identity, then that's fully on the TRA bus. That's a TRA calling out a GNC woman (if this ridiculous play is realy that is)

I've searched and searched and not found one single incident.

Anyway, TRAs and their sycophantic submissive allies always say that if women are harassed or attacked in their female only toilets by men they can just call the police weirdly the same advice is never given to men using the correct sexed toilets, odd that.

This is indeed the problem. I've been involved in two minor incidents recently. I was going into the toilets (ladies) at a pub recently when a man in front of me also went to go in. I said 'that's the ladies' and he looked hard at me for a second or two, annoyed, then turned away. No apology, nothing. I think he would have gone in if I hadn't challenged him -- and I wonder if there are some actual men, not claiming to be women, who try to get away with that. (Because weirdos).
The second time, a young lad came up alongside me as i was going in and I said as per, 'this is the ladies.' She (for it was definitely a she) said 'I know' and I immediately apologised profusely. She was gracious enough to say no problem. I should have waited until I got a good look at her face and instead was left with egg on my face.
(I thought it was a 12 or 13 year old boy -- slight, wearing jeans, baseball cap, bomber jacket. But definitely a girl/woman, could have been any age from 15 to 20. )
What to do? I suppose the only thing is to wait until you're certain. Or you recognise it's Eddie Izzard.

I think most short haired or butch of centre women are perfectly ok with being politely challenged.

I fit into the ‘looks like a 12 year old boy from a distance’ category (due to short hair and baseball cap) and have even had small children ask if I’m a boy or a girl. As soon as I speak or you look at me more closely, it’s obvious I’m female.

No harm in asking!

Plus you can always go with ‘Oh, is ^this* the ladies?’ to get a verbal/eye contact response without risking potential offence (or if the person is clearly a manly man and nothing but a manly man ‘Oh, I was under the impression this was the ladies’)

I can't watch the video because I'm blocked by Mongomerie but it doesn't sound like I'm missing much.

I do want to take issue with this comment though: You can abhor harassment and recognise it is happening because of GC women being emboldened by extremists which is the most bizarre upside-down through-the-looking-glass post imaginable. Women aren't the extremists here. What on earth makes someone think women wanting to have and keep our own spaces is somehow extreme as opposed to being completely normal and in fact desirable? Women rightly refusing access isn't harassment either - in reality we're being harassed by those extremists who transgress social and moral norms by ignoring our entirely reasonable boundaries. It is just beyond ridiculous now.

But the 'GC aggresor' asks the person how do you identify? Surely if she was GC she would ask what sex the individual was. To be honest I can't make much sense 9f that tik tok video one way or the other.