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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

To feel incredibly sorry for Eddie Izzard

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ColdstreamAnnie · 27/10/2022 20:31

I don't want to pity Eddie but I felt a wave of sadness after reading that Rosie Duffield (MP) said she would rather be arrested than refer to Eddie as a woman.

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RedToothBrush · 31/10/2022 13:07

Poor Eddie says he's going to be in 'permenant girl mode' from now on. After Rosie said her piece.

Which I find quite troubling for someone in their 50s wanting to be an MP.

I kind of expect grown ups not 'girls' or 'boys' in the HoC. What with it being a position of responsibility.

Aside from that, I find it quite remarkable that Izzard has managed to cope with being male, until he embarked on a political career and switched to boy mode when it suited parts for acting but mysterious was in girl mode for political activism. And now is going full on girl mode because there's a seat going in Sheffield.

I wish my career progression would benefit as much from this weird identity shift at convenient times like that. Feeling unavoidably innately a girl or a boy sure picks its moments doesn't it.

I'm guessing Rosie felt an innate inability to tell which side of bed Izzard had got out of bed that day. Just as much as Izzard had.

Do I feel sorry Izzard?

Why would I feel sorry for someone with amazing super hero powers that allow them to shift at will between girl and boy mode to benefit their career in a way that most humans don't have?

Some might call this skill a priviledge over women in their 50s who tend to get lots of comments about being past it or ugly based on their fading looks whilst being regarded as a bit thick for always only having female brains.

I wouldn't of course because that would be transphobic according to the Labour Party, Lib Dems, Greens and SNP. Who am I to call 'THIS IS FUCKING BULLSHIT?'

= shrugs doing an innocent girl mode giggle =

nilsmousehammer · 31/10/2022 13:13

Yeah I'm sure that'll last until the next job/work offer where it would be useful to kick off the high heels and instantly re enter 'boy mode'.

No eye roll big enough.

Datun · 31/10/2022 13:23

nilsmousehammer · 31/10/2022 13:13

Yeah I'm sure that'll last until the next job/work offer where it would be useful to kick off the high heels and instantly re enter 'boy mode'.

No eye roll big enough.

Yeah. I don't think Eddie quite realises the words he says are there forever. Let's hope Rosie holds him to it.

I wouldn't blame Rosie now for inventing a few pronouns of her own and insisting that they are used. Every time. By everyone. Precipitating a mass misgendering spree of spectacular proportions and scope. Let's really see how far this can go and who it is, exactly, who gets to decide.

Eddie doubling down is only serving to make people peer a little more closely through their spectacles at the Emperor.

nilsmousehammer · 31/10/2022 13:35

I don't understand how Izzard is managing to block out the awareness that only one sex has the power and arrogance to declare that just by throwing on high heels and a dodgy skirt and announcing in the manner of clark kent that they've turned into a different person, and expect the other sex to not only be interested in this and think it important but to provide the labour to enable them .

It's one huge act of sex based entitlement and sex based thinking. Not playing, life's too short and having a vagina does not make me a codependent doormat.

WaddleAway · 31/10/2022 14:55

nilsmousehammer · 31/10/2022 13:35

I don't understand how Izzard is managing to block out the awareness that only one sex has the power and arrogance to declare that just by throwing on high heels and a dodgy skirt and announcing in the manner of clark kent that they've turned into a different person, and expect the other sex to not only be interested in this and think it important but to provide the labour to enable them .

It's one huge act of sex based entitlement and sex based thinking. Not playing, life's too short and having a vagina does not make me a codependent doormat.

He isn’t blocking it out. He knows exactly what he’s doing.

anyolddinosaur · 31/10/2022 17:17

Eddie is having a great time, lots of publicity and people fawning over him. I'm sorry Eddie sometimes wants to be something that is impossible for Eddie. Learning to accept that there are things you cannot change is an important life lesson. No-one should expect other people to lie for them.

BeenCounter · 31/10/2022 20:50

I don't frequent the femenist boards often and I do not agree this thread has been automatically moved from AIBU.

Why is this ? Why are MN worried about the traffic.

I think Eddie is hughly ambitious, someone who will jump on any fashionable way of thinking, the woke learning of the youth, the virtue signalling.
The only independant thinker in this is Eddie, who is banking on the majority being to worried to stray from the ethics of conform.

Using this platform to conquer his next ambition, with lack of respect for those who have serious commitment to whatever he turns his hat to.
I've never really been a fan of his standup, find him very intellegent though, but seems more like a rambling rancantour than an actual comedian.
I also found some of his support during Brexit did more harm than good, his video with Dan Hannan at a university debate evening showed how ill prepared he was.
Is this the same sort of debate the people of Sheffield will be subjected and rely on to state their case?
He is not a politician, maybe he will bring publicity to the city but will it always be a possitive publicity ?

This is about Eddie, all about Eddie, I doubt whether he really cares about male/female pronouns, it's just another vehicle to get him where he wants to go.

monsteramunch · 31/10/2022 21:09

Trustylion · 31/10/2022 11:08

Why are there posts on here being deleted for using he pronouns about this person when they themselves refer to themselves as such when acting or on certain days?

Especially when OP also did it in one of her posts:

He is gender fluid, I believe. I suppose I felt sorry for him because I can't imagine how difficult it must be to identify as one gender and have lots of people tell you that you're not.

TheBiologyStupid · 31/10/2022 21:13

I think Eddie is in full menopausalgirl mode now, whatever difference that makes...

MsPinkMarshmallow · 31/10/2022 21:35

Rainbowshit · 29/10/2022 09:43

This such a brilliant article.

God I love Janice Turner

RedToothBrush · 31/10/2022 22:12

anyolddinosaur · 31/10/2022 17:17

Eddie is having a great time, lots of publicity and people fawning over him. I'm sorry Eddie sometimes wants to be something that is impossible for Eddie. Learning to accept that there are things you cannot change is an important life lesson. No-one should expect other people to lie for them.

I think the fact that this is the same Eddie that did all those marathons is worth commenting on at this point. There is some background context there.

ToGanymedeAndTitan · 31/10/2022 22:25

How is Eddie doing marathons relevant?

RedToothBrush · 31/10/2022 22:28

I also found some of his support during Brexit did more harm than good,

Put it this way, I felt like I wanted to vote leave on occasion after seeing Izzards performance during the ref!

It was appalling and utterly cringe worthy. It wasn't civil and it wasn't pleasant.

It certainly didn't do the cause any good.

RedToothBrush · 31/10/2022 22:33

ToGanymedeAndTitan · 31/10/2022 22:25

How is Eddie doing marathons relevant?

Eddie was a hero with the public adoringly looking on and cheering in the face of adversity...

bellinisurge · 31/10/2022 22:33

Bad people, annoying people, self obsessed people, good people, excellent people do marathons.

RedToothBrush · 31/10/2022 22:37

bellinisurge · 31/10/2022 22:33

Bad people, annoying people, self obsessed people, good people, excellent people do marathons.

Do they do that many back to back on tv?

NotBadConsidering · 31/10/2022 22:45

ToGanymedeAndTitan · 31/10/2022 22:25

How is Eddie doing marathons relevant?

Because the fact he once ran through Sheffield was actually used by the Guardian to pad out his legitimacy in standing for parliament there.

Titsflyingsouth · 01/11/2022 08:32

Eddie Izzard treats my sex as a costume to be worn and taken off at their convenience. It's completely disrespectful.

stealtheatingtunnocks · 01/11/2022 08:47

The marathon running is odd. That is extreme exercise, not athletic achievement.

Eddie said on Rogan that Eddie had hoped to be a Marine and wanted to be for enough to be combat ready (from memeory, not a quote) at all times. Eddie is 60+, which is past the age of active service.

I suspect Eddie is surrounded by people who tell Eddie what Eddie wants to hear, that Eddie has an addictive streak and a range of delusions of grandeur.

shame, Death Star Canteen was brilliant.

JanieAllen · 01/11/2022 08:51

What does Eddie bring to being an MP .... I mean hanging about filmsets, doing comedy? no knowledge of industry, international affairs, NHS, running a local authority... just what can we benefit from Eddie in the House of Commons except more appalling outfits? More removing of women's rights and boundaries?

JanieAllen · 01/11/2022 08:52

I think he wants a well paid job with a massive pension. Because he can see the parts drying up. Weird that.

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CorporateBull · 01/11/2022 11:06

Glenda Jackson became an excellent MP, but she gave up everything but politics while she did it.

JanieAllen · 01/11/2022 11:10

Glenda did and helped my friend get a council flat!

WeeBisom · 01/11/2022 11:24

On the marathon point, izzard admitted in the guardian that he succumbs to magical thinking and feels if he does enough marathons his dead mother will come back to life. Which is very sad. I do wonder if this girl mode business is similarly magical thinking? It will be challenging for Eddie now he’s in full girl mode … no more lucrative male roles!

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