Standing for women - Portland rally cancelled over violent threats

[ArabellaScott]

Not quite sure what's happened - seems there were credible threats to women's lives over these protests.

twitter.com/StandingforXX

Now it seems a few women went ahead and met up and were attacked. (Nobody seriously hurt as far as I can tell)

twitter.com/ReduxxMag/status/1585012546766966784

Hoping everyone is safe and well.

Yet now you are trying to say that those close and cosy far-right-wingers are suddenly going to turn around to be her counter-protesters.

No, I'm saying you don't want them on your side because they are a liability and the kind of violence they are capable of dishing out is not something I hope gender critical activists want to be associated with. I mean look at them, and compare them to the counter protesters we've seen at GC events:

That's exactly what they were in Tacoma. But antifa aren't the paramilitary force rampaging through cities that conspiracy theorists on the US right want you to believe.

They seem like old-fashioned football hooligans.

The EDL, which was the group Tommy Robinson founded before Heart of Oak (who have been associated with gender critical people) were largely made up of football hooligans.

The EDL, which was the group Tommy Robinson founded before Heart of Oak (who have been associated with gender critical people) were largely made up of football hooligans.

If you want to keep on force teaming can you answer this question, why is Julie Bindel cosying up to the Daily Mail, who have a real link with facists?

I’m not particularly scared of them. I know the riot police deal with them.

i watched a video of that HoO bloke who was in Brighton and what I found fascinating, was that - once you got past his potty mouth- he had a deep, visceral sense of what it’s like for women having their space encroached upon by men. He even seemed to understand the concept of ‘all men are potential rapists’, with no sense of defensiveness whatsoever- a much more connected grasp than most men.

it made me chuckle at the thought of Posie turning these ‘geezers’ into radfems 😂

What, the 'no-one likes us and we don't care', Millwall???

Antifa aren’t a ‘paramilitary force’, no.

They are a rag tag bunch of sex offenders and criminals though. Definitely not school children.

Stop falling for what the US left want you to believe.

Am I understanding this correctly: we are now accusing KJK of hiring the EDF as security at UK standing for women events? It is hard to keep up sometimes.

Glinner's latest piece has some relevance: grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/the-loneliness-of-the-long-distance

Lumping Arty Morty and Stella in with the formidable Posie is gross and deeply insulting.

How come? I quite like Arty and he's always been supportive of Posie

I agree with Glinner wanting these people being a bit nuts, whipping up a load of lies, to just stop long enough until she’s home and safe.

I have a ideological disagreement about whether the solidarity with a bloke could be framed as ‘feminist’ solidarity, but you know what? Glinner has taken a lot of blows for women, and I think he deserves a bit of love to heal his rattled nerves, so I’m not quibbling.

Livvy, I very much doubt that Millwall supporters had any say. This was a commercial booking of a meeting room, and the club is a commercial operation. I doubt the average person on the terraces knew anything about the controversy. Indeed if asked, and based on the several Millwall fans I know, they would have been supportive of the women. With a few exceptions clubs don't pay much heed to supporters, at least till they start actually booing the mangers or players. In the meantime Oooh Benik Afobe.....

I wish the guidance to new posters included a plea to stick to known facts and not simply drop assertions to suit their argument.

(Pre-war my dad used to climb over the fence to get into the ground.)

I'd like the Vice magazine/Proud Boys link mentioned above to be addressed but as I'm still waiting for the Hearts of Oak/TRA connection to be acknowledged I think I'm in for a long wait. It's far too much fun for certain people to throw out the most ridiculous accusations and clownish fabrications so women feel they have to waste valuable time and energy disproving the possible atom in their own eye rather than highlight the uber-forest in the accuser's. Far right isn't really an accusation, it's a squirrel to take attention off their own guilty actions.

Arty launched a drunken twitter attack on feminists, claiming they want AGP genocide. Stella O'Malley attacked trans widows who pushed back on Arty. Arty is pro be kind to AGP sufferers. Stella is pro taking lessons from the likes of Ray Blanchard and applying it to young, porn addled boys who think they are women. Conflating the push back against them - the legitimate concerns of trans widows and women concerned with child safeguarding - with the attacks by left leaning academic feminists on someone who has a highly effective message, that appeals to the masses; and who has made more GC inroads on the the psyche of the wider populace than closed shop academic feminism could ever hope to do - is disingenuous and self serving.

What happened was that Milwall was faced with a tsunami of TRAs calling them up to put a stop to women speaking. They themselves called it a 'relentless assault'.

I mean, pretending it was about their reputation, when their reputation has mainly been for football related violence where towns that have Millwall come and play football close their pubs for the afternoons they are in town, still tickles me.

The irony of course is that Venice took the meeting to the House of Commons through David T Davies instead. Comment from the talk '“We heard the same report from David’s office as well … the House of Commons have hosted meetings with Hamas; the IRA and yet they’ve never known anything like it.'

Yes. Many of us were following the entire saga on here, in real time and went to the meetings. Livvy spinning these stories doesn't work.

Yes. And it has always been of interest to me that male Tory politicians have been the ones who seem to be the first to have radical feminists’ backs. It messed with my politically correct brain 😂and definitely gave me a shift in thinking about right v left.

Is this how the lefty blinkers work? Retconning events to gaslight everyone?

To the pp who asked what PP is doing in the US:

1. There are crucial mid term elections on Tuesday, that could plot the course for US politics for the next 10 years;
2. PP has a lot of US fans. She asked where she should go, and they told her where she would be welcomed by grass roots women's groups;
3. She made a big splash (pun intended) last time she went, with a very simple clap back against a Liah Thomas supporter - the "I'm not a vet" comment. That got her on Tucker Carlson and opened up the issue of TRA incursions on women's rights to a wider audience. US women concerned about this took strength from her simple common sense;
4. PP says she wants to make a documentary, so that the women who fight/fought this are not lost in history. The Matt Walsh documentary conveniently failed to give any credit to the women who have been putting their livelihoods on the line and fighting this cause in the US, women like Kara Dansky who is fighting to protect women's prisons. PP wants to set the record straight. I imagine this tour will end up in the documentary.
5. America is apparently the land of the free and the home of the brave. Free speech is protected under the constitution. If PP wants to go and campaign over there, is doing everything legally, is supported by local women (and men), then why should anyone have an issue with that?

I think the biggest problem for almost everyone who criticises her, is that it works

uh huh

I would guess a fair few of them were Corbyn supporters

they'd rather be pure than win

fuck that shit

Yep. They hate that it works and that she has good hair and looks fit in a jumpsuit.

Sorry but I can't take any of this toxic shit seriously anymore. KJK's detractors remind me of nothing so much as teenage girls with a grudge against the pretty, popular one. It's honestly embarrassing.

And KJK is so dignified and rises above it all. If they asked for her support, she'd give it. It's a shame they're too caught up in their toxic psychodrama to do any good.

But antifa aren't the paramilitary force rampaging through cities that conspiracy theorists on the US right want you to believe.

Just posting this vid which is quite interesting on the topic of how ANtIFA has been portrayed in USA media. From around 41 minutes on

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4664291-lgbtq-communitys-battle-for-the-dinosaur-emoji-on-peter-boghossians-show?reply=121282686