Standing for women - Portland rally cancelled over violent threats

[ArabellaScott]

Not quite sure what's happened - seems there were credible threats to women's lives over these protests.

twitter.com/StandingforXX

Now it seems a few women went ahead and met up and were attacked. (Nobody seriously hurt as far as I can tell)

twitter.com/ReduxxMag/status/1585012546766966784

Hoping everyone is safe and well.

It's not victim blaming. I haven't said that it's the fault of women who attend if they are assaulted. It's obviously not, the perpetrators are aggressive men.

But the events shouldn’t be organised right?

so the real fault lies with the organiser?

As I said, I don't think it's been made in the US yet.

It may be a harder message to get across, because the US has a very different culture.

American women have been well aware of the threat of male violence at these events, since long before Tacoma. The most prominent US women in this fight, like Lierre Keith and Kara Dansky, do this knowing full well that they may lose their lives in the process. Their courage is astounding.

100%. I am in awe of the US women.

That is what the outcome will be. Whether it is acknowledged or not.

This cyclical style of discussion is common regarding this style of event. It has been this way on numerous threads now.

I don't think so, but you're entitled to your own views of course.

Such an important point. As seen in the courts, prisons, children's charities, NHS, the press, even leaders of political parties. So many behaviours demonstrated are deeply anti social, dangerous to children and women or just vile and repellent

Sunlight is so important.

When I've talked to friends who were very TWAW before, the one thing they agreed on was that it was wrong that women were unable to even discuss the issues.

Women need to discuss the issues.

It's very clear what happens when women try to do this:

1. There are threats, censure, and sometimes violence, which show the tactics being used by TRAs up for what they are - suppression.
2. The problems with TWAW become very clear, and the reason for the tactics described in 1. becomes likewise clear.

so what's your point?

you seem to have a problem with these events being organised

I had assumed from your posts it was because violent men may target the women attending

if it isn't that, what is your problem with the events?

I don't have a problem with the events, I've been trying to understand their purpose.

Although even that seems to be interpreted as a criticism.

But you're not thinking it through logically.

Women have to talk about this.

KJK has been cancelled and de-platformed everywhere. She's constantly targeted in order to shut her down.

She decided to go into public parks and squares on purpose. It's a deliberate MO. One public square at a time.

And now those rallies are also being targeted. She's running out of places to go. All she is doing is reacting to the constant persecution.

Men threatening her is nothing new. She has received some inhumane messages. During Covid, one particularly creative cunt decided to describe in detail how he would like her to listen to her child's death rattle.

Men threatening her with violence is not going to make her walk away, it's going to make her get protection.

Women go and they meet other women. They hear other’s stories directly. And they are inspired. But mostly they feel not alone and get to meet others.

their purpose is for women to get together, discuss their experiences and network

seems pretty obvious, no?

I have said what their purpose is.

It's to highlight what is happening to children. How 12 and 13-year-old girls are having their breasts cut off in the name of an ideology that encourages gender stereotyping, and advocates altering children's bodies to accommodate it.

she has four children.

it seems between us we can brainstorm a number of purposes that these events achieve

From what I understand, KJK is critical of the entire ideology, but if you watch it talk about kids, that's when she's at her most furious.

her, not it. 🤣

This.

It's the same for events organized by WoLF, WDI USA, Sovereign Women Speak, and others.

The sheer size of the US makes it so hard to meet up with and form groups with other women. A single US event draws women from several hundred miles around (at least) and helps us to organize new initiatives.

Please don't dismiss (not you, Helle! just certain posters on this thread) the efforts to which women are going to meet up in the USA. I know an older woman (a pensioner, you would call her, though there's not much in the way of pension in this country) who is contemplating a 14 hour one-way drive and sleeping on someone's floor just to attend one of the upcoming SfW events.

I know an older woman (a pensioner, you would call her, though there's not much in the way of pension in this country) who is contemplating a 14 hour one-way drive and sleeping on someone's floor just to attend one of the upcoming SfW events.

That's amazing!

And that's why I don't get the criticism. She's not trying to let right-wing people infiltrate feminism or anything like that. It's nonsense.

I, too, am baffled by the criticism and attacks. They seem disproportionate.

Gosh, I'm certainly not dismissing women in the US meeting and organising.

Whatever gave you that idea?

My thinking is perfectly logical, thanks Datun.

Gosh, I'm certainly not dismissing women in the US meeting and organising.

good, glad to hear it. Because earlier you said Does the issue of men wanting women to STFU need further highlighting? I'm not convinced.

I don't mean to have a go at you Sundaymorningtoday, or try to catch you out.

I understand it can be complex. And when women are threatened, all sorts of reactions are involuntary. I know you want them to avoid violence, but, in all conscience, that's the way people are attempting to shut them down.

great, what's your objection to the meetings then? because I'm struggling to understand what your point is?

something about them makes you uncomfortable - can you articulate what it is?

Is it because women are worried about the indoctrination, drugging and mutilation of their kids?