Standing for women - Portland rally cancelled over violent threats

[ArabellaScott]

Not quite sure what's happened - seems there were credible threats to women's lives over these protests.

twitter.com/StandingforXX

Now it seems a few women went ahead and met up and were attacked. (Nobody seriously hurt as far as I can tell)

twitter.com/ReduxxMag/status/1585012546766966784

Hoping everyone is safe and well.

That's not what the 14 year old girl or the media reports were referring to. So far there is video evidence of her using pepper spray twice, once against the person who tried to spit at her and once against the person who sprayed her with silly string. That doesn't mean that's all that happened.

Oh. So livvyposts has exactly the same arguments as Marg and that TwitterEngineer ?

They draw a mixed response admittedly but no-one objective will regard that as a serious act of violence. Most neutrals I saw seemed to think it was quite funny, although that might be due to the weird song that was also in the video.

And people can see the real hyperbole. For all the talk of heavily armed masked anteefa preparing an imminent deadly attack the truth has been a bunch of school kids armed with silly string and a couple of custard pies.

It is remarkable isn't it?

That violence against women is dismissed so readily when it is again instigated by activists.

It is pretty vile to be fair, but it is great to keep it being repeated throughout this thread. Because it really does show how dishonest posts are.

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Haha! i've never had such bollocks in all my life!!

I don't know what it is about trans activists. I understand the need to exaggerate, because you've got fuck all except a bunch of women being horribly intimidated and threatened, but for the love of God try and get some kind of credible argument together.

Nah.... its ok. All that needs to happen is that all women in the movement need to put this statement out on social media and I think that people will start to understand just what is happening ....

How long have you been at this and you still can't spot an obvious parody.

Speakers corner also had quite a limited number of attendees to start with.

Apart from a really quite spectacular fury over what's happening to children (she has four), she also has a genius for publicity.

A few years ago she was contacted by parents in the US asking her for help. We are much more open here about what's happening. So she is trying to get the conversation started, over there.

I agree tho, it's a totally different kettle of fish in the US. I think that was part of the motivation. The injustice of it all and the silencing of parents.

But yes it's very dangerous. Hence why she's had to cancel a couple of venues and employ a security firm.

There are far more vested interests in the US, in terms of pharmaceutical companies. I can't remember how much these childhood transitions make, for these companies, but it's hundreds and hundreds of thousands if not millions.

she's a brave woman.

The students allege that they were sprayed as they followed the women at the end of the rally, who were escorting the injured 57 year old woman to safety.

This cannot be said enough times.

The students allege that they were sprayed as they followed the women at the end of the rally, who were escorting the injured 57 year old woman to safety.

Oh look.... there is a squirrel.... over there... look who Kellie Jay is getting photo with.... that is a fat squirrel.

Well.... if people are going to look at a photo and immediately dismiss anything that Kellie Jay has to say, people only have to look at this statement to work out that maybe, just maybe she is not extreme as people try to make her out.

Here is that statement again:

Statement of apology, representation and inclusivity.
14th September 2022
from 'Anti-transphobe Action'

We received a few complaints from members of the Minor Attacted Persons community regarding out statement of solidarity with NAMBLA. The concern was over the use of terms 'paedophile' and 'pederast', which some MAPs think of as a sure against those engaged in intergenerational sex.

So whilst some MAPs may be ok with the terms 'paedophile' and 'pederast', we will now use the more inclusive term Minor Attracted Persons, in order to avoid needlessly offending some members of that particular marginalised community.

Representation and accommodating the needs and feelings of all our queer theory comrades is a must.

You know, if you are going to force guilt by association, probably best to make sure that statements like this are not being posted on social media...

Who is it parodying, please?

Practise your explanations now, because you'll going to need to be word perfect if that goes viral in America.

Care to show evidence that it is a parody please?

Not saying that it isn't, but bring on that evidence. It is getting very hard to know what is satire and what is just plain old reality these days.

And by the way, what does it matter to you? You have not been engaging with honesty on this entire thread?

Why do you care if this is true or not?

I cannot imagine it is NOT going to go viral at this stage.

But the other question really is, if this poster is so keen on spreading their own falsehoods, why should this one bother them?

also, I have to say, this does not paint the US in a good light. It looks violent and lawless.

these boards often talk about certain laws there, like the no lower age on marriage issue, and raped girls being forced to marry their rapist to protect the respectability of the family etc. and of course Roe v Wade being overturned.

it's really disturbing.

But yes it's very dangerous. Hence why she's had to cancel a couple of venues and employ a security firm.

I suspect she also packed this one in early too. As soon as she realised the principal was not going to do anything and the protesters had swelled with many students.

It's an obvious hoax, as the many gender critical people responding to that tweet have realised. You do know that anyone can set up a wordpress blog don't you?

It's not even a very good hoax.

Is it a hoax when Twitter allows maps (paedophiles) to put the ages of the children they are interested in in their bio? Like, for instance, 0 to 6 months?

And as I said. Why does this bother you?

You have spread falsehoods and hyperbolic misrepresentations all over this thread.

Why are you suddenly so worried by falsehoods? Surely you can see the issue, can't you?

And where is the proof? Are you just repeating stuff and not checked yourself. Because if you had checked, you could explain exactly why it is false.

Allegation 2:
That feminists threw their smartphones at children.

Step back a minute and think. When do people filming altercations throw their phones at anyone? Phones are expensive and fragile. April already reported that her phone was taken from her by the mob, at the time multiple bones in her hand were broken by an assailant.

And now to twitter. Quote: In the video of April being attacked you can see her phone being thrown, bouncing off a sign and landing near this girl. She’s blaming feminists for being attacked and having their stuff stolen. Why would feminists throw their own phones while livestreaming?

This girl may honestly and genuinely believe that the owner of the phone threw it at her. I'm not sure that's what happened.

Just to repeat.

What does it matter if this was a falsehood if we are going by your own posts as a standard?

Do you think that people seeing that statement are going to take it as being real? Or do you think they might check it out? Will those you are crowing about making false conclusions about women not likely to see this when looking for 'Standing for Women' and think, FUCK!!!

And by the way.... how much is parody of that statement and how much of it can be seen to be snippets taken from various true statements made from various groups?

Or, don't you think that women who then go and check the veracity of this statement will find a whole lot of evidence that says.... wellllll.... this one might be a parody, but fuck, there is so much of this out there that it may as not be.

Did you see this tweet?

[...]Judith Butler references the classic essay, Thinking Sex by Gayle Rubin, in which this language is just normal. I keep posting this passage so we can check what "marginalised" minority groups are:

link

Oh. And meanwhile you are all over this thread also dismissing violence against women, and now defending what group of people exactly?

Isn't this how this all works??

Actual quote from that essay: "[t]he lowliest of all, those whose eroticism transgresses generational boundaries".

You have spread falsehoods and hyperbolic misrepresentations all over this thread.

What falsehoods have I spread on this thread? All I've done is highlight allegations made by others and said they should be taken seriously.

How about the denial that having a pie thrown at a woman is a violent act?

Just for starters.

As I said.

What person denies violence against women, while protesting a statement about MAPs is parody?

I didn't say the pies weren't a violent act, I said most people would not consider it a serious act of violence and that it is something which has been used as part of political protest for decades.

And I didn't protest the statement I just pointed out it was an obvious hoax. Post it everywhere if you want, it just makes you look like a gullible fool.

What is the difference between :

I said most people would not consider it a serious act of violence and that it is something which has been used as part of political protest for decades.

and denying it was violence against women?

Exactly? Take us through it

The video has been removed as I originally said. I thought the spraying was on the longer video though. Maybe it isn't?