Joules flying the trans flag

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I've just seen this on twitter.

Seeing as though mumsnet are their target market, this is very foolish of them.

twitter.com/E8Emma/status/1583750937512144896?t=_ON-ZaQFS-TvpGxayfF2Xw&s=19

Though I'm sorry to disappoint you all, Im totally all for it! Nothing wrong with supporting trans or lgbtq rights!

I see. You have arrived on this board @andpeggy1 with your own set of prejudices about those who reguarly post here.

I think you will find that many on this board absolutely believe that trans people should have their own rights to protect them. And LGB people.

However, since you made such a prejudiced assumption that people don't care here on this board, would you care to tell us whose needs should be prioritised between LGB rights and trans rights when we were told this weekend that women's sports is over represented (in a positive way) by lesbians... yet, that lesbians will then potentially lose their hard fought for sporting places to male with pubertal advantages?

This is just one discussion point. But since you seem so very certain in your admonishment that we would be 'disappointed' that you support the rights of both groups, maybe you can tell us which group has priority when rights clash.

Well it’s a pity trans people aren’t so happy to be living in a world where lesbians get to choose who they have sex with.

I’m not actually sure what you support, you seem to be supporting two irreconcilable positions.

read a couple of dystopian novels think about them then come back,

Just ignore Marg. Of course Marg doesn't want women talking. And lying in order to make women talking look bad is par for the course. It's the post-Donald Trump internet. Fling shit like a deranged chimp and some will stick.

Let's not forget a woman in Scotland was arrested for the crime of "ribbons", and another woman in Wales was arrested for being in possession of stickers with the definition of "woman".

One side of this debate has a serious case of hurty feelz.

How could I forget when a women was dragged to court over a ribbon.

If anyone is thinking that the name "Queer Emporium" rings a bell, this may be why:

In a petition which seems to channel Victor Meldrew and Mary Whitehouse, the self-styled protectors of “LGBTQ” youth have made the extraordinary claim that unaccompanied, drunken women might pose a risk to their clientele. The fevered screed threatens that “further legal action” could follow should the council fail to bow to their demands.

Cllr Norma Mackie voiced her disgust in support of the Queer Emporium, declaring with all the outrage of a teetotal Baptist Minister, “It appears to be attracting hen parties with the aim of getting drunk.” For shame! Unchaperoned women on the streets of Cardiff cavorting and imbibing the demon drink. Quick, someone pass the queer-friendly poppers!

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Apparently unaware that the Queer Emporium might not be considered entirely suitable for children, founder Yan White complained to Wales Online about Blame Gloria, “You wouldn’t put a bar next to a Build-a-Bear so why put this next to us?”

Cutting through the jargon and hype, what is sold at the Queer Emporium is fear — and for youngsters this includes the chance to cosplay being part of an oppressed minority. Cardiff is not populated by monstrous bigots, and there is no great risk to those who are marked out as different. Mary’s, which advertises itself as “an award-winning LGBT+ bar”, is a two-minute stroll away. And yet, the social enterprise styles itself as a refuge or sanctuary in a cruel world full of threats, as a place “where folks are able to be themselves without fear or worry of attack or aggressions”.

https://thecritic.co.uk/hen-dont/

At the time, a local filmed the street and speculated that the true problem might actually be that the new occupants of the vacant premises next door would... want the property's storefront back. I can't find the video but this is a photo that seems to show the same thing.

It does look like the QE's outdoor seating area (where the store served alcohol!) covers some pavement space that isn't immediately outside their own store window, doesn't it?

People taking a vacant space when there was no-one to object and then throwing a tantrum when the rightful possessors wanted the space back. Remind you of anything?

It does look like the QE's outdoor seating area (where the store served alcohol!) covers some pavement space that isn't immediately outside their own store window, doesn't it?

I've just had a look on Google maps and there's a photo from 3 months ago, and it looks to me like they've reined themselves in.

<cheers for the adjacent stores' successful regain of territory>

Has Blame Gloria opened there yet? Do you think they'll give us tips on how to evict people squatting in spaces that aren't theirs?

Urban outfitters had a pride flag in the window on Friday, by saturday am it had GC stickers on it, by Saturday afternoon the whole lot was down, more agro than it was worth for them I presume!

I'm part of joules VM team

To be fair to Joules, who did take the flag down after talking to women, there is no proof that this person is actually a representative of Joules.

Lots of women on this thread seem to be assuming that this is a genuine cis member of the Joules team and not a trans member of the Joules team who is simply identifying as one.

But what’s a ‘cis’ member?

I don't know, but I don't think you ever see the piano being played with it.

nilsmousehammer, I love you! That is priceless.

Snort! 😆

Utterly, utterly brilliant. I salute you, @nilsmousehammer .

All rise for a standing ovation!

NOT LIKE THAT JORDAN

@nilsmousehammer I also salute you

Looks like Joules might have commented on the posts about it by accident

I can only imagine that post was meant to be kept internal.
Shows they are reading it all though.

Reading it again, it looks like they might possibly know the woman who is posting defending them.
Awkward

NRN means no reply necessary. Basically, Joules is saying there's no way to make this better so they're staying quiet until it all goes away.

Well there isn't is there?

Say anything at all remotely sensible and the TQ+ lobby will scream and go berserk

Stroke the TQ+ lobby on command and look complete tits while losing custom.

Note the common factor to both problems.

Thanks for sharing. So wonderful to see Joules making a stand for compassion. I’ll definitely be shopping there more from now on.