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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Mail: Parents of three-year-olds 'took their children to NHS Tavistock clinic claiming they were trans when they just wanted a child of a different sex', psychiatrist says

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ResisterRex · 22/10/2022 07:41

Article in the Mail on views and experiences of GIDS from a former psychiatrist who worked there until 2012. Referrals only increased after that time, as is documented.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11342541/Dr-Az-Hakeem-says-parents-claimed-kids-trans-NHS-Tavistock-transing-factory-clinic.html

"Parents of children as young as three were fabricating stories that their toddlers were transgender, a former psychiatrist at the Tavistock child gender clinic claims.

Dr Az Hakeem worked at the controversial NHS clinic for 12 years until 2012 and said he expressed concerns the procedures followed by staff 'were mad', describing Tavistock as a 'transing factory'."

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DameMaud · 22/10/2022 16:41

ResisterRex · 22/10/2022 15:48

Oh wow. Just found it. It's got a lot of traffic!

@ResisterRex would you mind share the thread link please? Or the title? 🙏

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 22/10/2022 16:54

DameMaud · 22/10/2022 16:41

@ResisterRex would you mind share the thread link please? Or the title? 🙏

I'm not Rex, but I got here first, so there. www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4660470-to-think-that-transing-young-children-is-a-medical-scandal?page=10

ResisterRex · 22/10/2022 16:56

Ha! Sorry was doing chores! Glad you got there Smile

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DameMaud · 22/10/2022 17:04

Ah! Thanks to you both then 🤗

terryleather · 22/10/2022 17:11

Melroses · 22/10/2022 11:29

Who is referring these preschool children - who’ve fairly recently discovered that they’re separate people from their mothers and are still grappling with theory of mind - to a gender identity clinic? There’s no possibility of them having an identity that is some essential part of them (rather than imposed from outside).

How did we end up with a clinic of paediatric psychologists and psychiatrists who had forgotten this?

This. It's fucking terrifying.

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 22/10/2022 17:32

terryleather · 22/10/2022 17:11

This. It's fucking terrifying.

If you look at the about us section of the new NHS gender clinic in Manchester, you might come up with a hypothesis.

The service is the culmination of several years of work to develop an improved model of care, which is local, timely, and easier to access.

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We know that trans and non-binary people are the experts of their own experience, and that is why this service has been developed by and for trans communities. Our services are trans and non-binary led, with trans and non-binary people guiding and feeding into them at all levels.
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A team of care navigators with lived experience works with people who access our services to help them to get the most out of the service and enable them to connect with local organisations

If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail...

umbel · 22/10/2022 18:24

If these kids are being seen aged 4 or 5, how old were they when they were referred? The Mail article reads like they were actually seen in clinic, and we are forever being told the waiting list is 2 years or thereabouts? Are these the babies who expressed their transgender identity by unsnapping their onesies, or pulling out their hair clips? Or maybe they knew they were trans in the womb, because isn’t that a thing now? www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-11280475/amp/Harvard-hospital-claims-babies-know-WOMB-transgender.html

ArabellaScott · 22/10/2022 19:09

'gender disappointment' is a complicated and very human emotion. Strong feelings and thoughts about having children are inevitable, and lots of things may stir up emotions unexpectedly as parents. There's never anything wrong with feelings or emotions; only with actions.

Clymene · 22/10/2022 19:29

Sorry for telling you about the thread and not posting the link! Was on my way out the door.

It has got a lot of replies. Inc a couple from a poster whose child's school was really pushing her to socially transition them. Horrifying.

DaughterofDawn · 24/10/2022 00:47

So selfish to try to force your kids to fit into your ideal of what they should be. Just let them be themselves. But to take it another step and start destroying their bodies to reach your end goal… That is really sad…

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