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Mermaids being investigated by the Charity Commission - thread 2

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ResisterRex · 06/10/2022 05:55

The first thread, towards the end of which there was a discussion about having a second thread but it wasn't added:

Mermaids being investigated by the charity commission
http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4644323-mermaids-being-investigated-by-the-charity-commissionn_

There's been a new development so maybe a second thread would be useful:

Lottery pauses trans charity cash during investigation

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/c959a286-44e4-11ed-8885-043c27446b97?shareToken=6d482edb1a386656502f33453da5c230

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TheClogLady · 08/10/2022 22:14

www.nytimes.com/2011/07/24/...arents-of-gay-children-push-for-marriage.html

Archive: archive.ph/Xi9hw

stepmother is a therapist who self describes as ‘sex positive, kink allied, little person allied’.

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Mermaids being investigated by the Charity Commission - thread 2
Mermaids being investigated by the Charity Commission - thread 2
Mermaids being investigated by the Charity Commission - thread 2
nilsmousehammer · 08/10/2022 22:16

RUFISRUF · 08/10/2022 21:17

This is getting crazy now. It’s like this was all hiding in plain sight, women were screaming about it but no one did anything. This is as is the Jimmy Saville and kids club scandal had a baby. Surely with all this evidence something will be done? Or am I being way too optimistic

It was all in plain sight. This is what 'queering childhood' means . They wrote documents and books about it.

I keep hoping that journalists are reading all the information being collated on this thread. However its then which journalists and papers have the guts to do the real investigative journalism as opposed to keep looking the other way and murmuring vaguely 'it's complicated' while hoping someone else does something and takes the flak/responsibility.

It's like one massive serious case review in slow motion.

FannyCann · 08/10/2022 22:19

People with DSD must be SO pissed off, I really feel for them.

Until about five minutes ago most people knew nothing about these mostly rare medical conditions (some more uncommon than others), I daresay medical care varied, probably by postcode lottery, but I think these were generally recognised as specific medical conditions with specific needs. I'm sure some people felt embarrassment/shame and hid their condition as much as possible. Historically some were treated wrongly, it's where the whole "assigned at birth" thing came from. I knew someone who had been brought up male, did the whole army thing etc, but then changed to female which was their actual sex but the understanding hadn't been there when they were young.

Now intersex has been press ganged into the alphabet soup, used as a third sex gotcha, and dodgy people are popping up to advocate for them when I'm sure they'd mostly like to advocate for themselves and probably would prefer to keep their medical condition private.

I highly doubt the majority of the people who are suddenly so concerned for "intersex" people actually care a jot about them, they are just being used as props.

Handsoffmyrights · 08/10/2022 22:21

Look up the 'We're Still Here' conference thread on MN (sorry, can't seem to link it), featuring Lord, Mermaids, Webberly, Fae, Harrop and chums.

It's still as chilling as when I saw it at the time.

FannyCann · 08/10/2022 22:24

Ahh Harrop. Twitter is a lot more peaceful without him. What's he up to these days?

FemaleAndLearning · 08/10/2022 22:29

It would be really good if someone did a network diagram showing all the links between these people.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 08/10/2022 22:30

Handsoffmyrights · 08/10/2022 22:21

Look up the 'We're Still Here' conference thread on MN (sorry, can't seem to link it), featuring Lord, Mermaids, Webberly, Fae, Harrop and chums.

It's still as chilling as when I saw it at the time.

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/3398737-We-re-Still-Here-Conference-8th-September-A-report-from-the-inside

RUFISRUF · 08/10/2022 22:31

FannyCann · 08/10/2022 22:24

Ahh Harrop. Twitter is a lot more peaceful without him. What's he up to these days?

Keeping his nose very very clean and his head down.

ArabellaScott · 08/10/2022 22:34

Meg John Barker:

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/3951849-Meg-John-Barker

For anyone who wants to follow various further threads/rabbit holes.

ArabellaScott · 08/10/2022 22:35

Lots of posts from hoodathunkit on there:

'MJB was also a director of the absolutely fascinating (and worthy of intense scrutiny) organisation the College of Sexual and Relationship Therapists that has many connections to the (possibly even more fascinating organisation StopSo)

beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/officers/RmRO4-kF7vzYfIBJEn3pFyd0cN8/appointments'

FannyCann · 08/10/2022 22:39

Ugh. Spoke to soon @RUFISRUF
He has a new Instagram account. And has been busy at the recent WPATH conference.

Is he still MRCGP? Or reinstated?

instagram.com/aa_harrop?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

Mermaids being investigated by the Charity Commission - thread 2
Mermaids being investigated by the Charity Commission - thread 2
Mermaids being investigated by the Charity Commission - thread 2
nauticant · 08/10/2022 22:40

@hoodathunkitwas forever being labelled as an obsessive and by implication someone that sensible people needed to ignore. It always struck me as very unfair.

ArabellaScott · 08/10/2022 22:41

Also Meg John Barker co authored a book with Walter Pierre Bouman, of WPATH.

www.nottinghamshirehealthcare.nhs.uk/meet-the-team-gender

www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B078BB2KLR/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_hsch_vapi_taft_p2_i0

Handsoffmyrights · 08/10/2022 22:46

Thanks. I forgot Dawn Butler was there too.

RUFISRUF · 08/10/2022 22:49

FannyCann · 08/10/2022 22:39

Ugh. Spoke to soon @RUFISRUF
He has a new Instagram account. And has been busy at the recent WPATH conference.

Is he still MRCGP? Or reinstated?

instagram.com/aa_harrop?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

Well there goes my lady hope he’d learned his lesson.

FemaleAndLearning · 08/10/2022 23:00

FannyCann · 08/10/2022 22:39

Ugh. Spoke to soon @RUFISRUF
He has a new Instagram account. And has been busy at the recent WPATH conference.

Is he still MRCGP? Or reinstated?

instagram.com/aa_harrop?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

He mentions his own transgender affirmative clinic in that Instagram text?

ArabellaScott · 08/10/2022 23:03

Just reading an article on vaginoplasty from 2004 -

www.theguardian.com/society/2004/aug/02/socialcare.mentalhealth

'Demand for the operation is rising'

From 2016, same surgeon:

www.theguardian.com/society/2016/jul/10/meet-the-gender-reassignment-surgeons-demand-is-going-through-the-roof

'“The volume that we need to do to meet the demand is just going through the roof'

TheClogLady · 08/10/2022 23:11

FemaleAndLearning · 08/10/2022 23:00

He mentions his own transgender affirmative clinic in that Instagram text?

He was working at CMAGIC part time, but that was pre suspension.

www.cheshireccg.nhs.uk/news/news-stories/cheshire-transgender-counselling-support-services-launched/

FemaleAndLearning · 08/10/2022 23:18

Thanks for clarification Clog Lady.

I've just read the first page of the 2018 thread, my goodness it is like nothing has changed. I didn't get involved in this until the GRA reform consultation do was quite new to Mumsnet. I have to say how much I admire all those posters back then and the women today who just don't give up. Who ate such excellent researchers are so knowledge and intelligent.
Even in my few years there have been times when I just think this is too much I can't take it. The Mermaids stuff has to be the beginning of the end surely?

FannyCann · 08/10/2022 23:22

"Pushing the boundaries of what is possible"

Isn't that pretty much what this whole thread has been about? Envy

Let's hope he's not allowed near any satellite clinics set up in the aftermath of closing down Gids. Shock

PrincessButtercupToo · 08/10/2022 23:28

I’ve been quite severely insulted on here before for pointing out the link between paedophilia and encouragement of puberty blockers, and am very much on the GC side of these discussions, but even I am quite shocked at how easily someone with these views was welcomed into the heart of the charity who at a minimum pretend they aren’t driven by facilitating paedophiles.

FannyCann · 08/10/2022 23:30

ArabellaScott · 08/10/2022 23:03

Just reading an article on vaginoplasty from 2004 -

www.theguardian.com/society/2004/aug/02/socialcare.mentalhealth

'Demand for the operation is rising'

From 2016, same surgeon:

www.theguardian.com/society/2016/jul/10/meet-the-gender-reassignment-surgeons-demand-is-going-through-the-roof

'“The volume that we need to do to meet the demand is just going through the roof'

NHS England is funding increased provision of "masculinising genital surgery" as per this FOI.
I think what I find most shocking is the planned provision of a whole time tissue viability nurse. Generally speaking TVNs are concerned with wounds that aren't healing (including pressure sores and skin ulcers). It's almost as if they are expecting complications....

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/nhsserviceeforprovisionnof_mas#incoming-2108473

Mermaids being investigated by the Charity Commission - thread 2
Mermaids being investigated by the Charity Commission - thread 2
mcduffy · 09/10/2022 07:08

Times coverage today in the Scotland section

Mermaids’ fishy links cast stink on Scotland’s trans bill

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/cea368fa-4730-11ed-a9bf-432f673b24aa?shareToken=d8c68f74a942bba5d61a528b08005b69

Datun · 09/10/2022 08:54

Anyone reading the catalogue of failures listed in that article should be wondering why the charity commission isn't investigated alongside mermaids.

Why the fuck haven't they acted before?

The Webberley fiasco should have prompted an immediate review.

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