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Mermaids being investigated by the Charity Commission - thread 2

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ResisterRex · 06/10/2022 05:55

The first thread, towards the end of which there was a discussion about having a second thread but it wasn't added:

Mermaids being investigated by the charity commission
http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4644323-mermaids-being-investigated-by-the-charity-commissionn_

There's been a new development so maybe a second thread would be useful:

Lottery pauses trans charity cash during investigation

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/c959a286-44e4-11ed-8885-043c27446b97?shareToken=6d482edb1a386656502f33453da5c230

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ArabellaScott · 08/10/2022 20:10

Oh, aye. Noting Meg John Barker is partner of Edward Lord, who is a Freeman of the Leathersellers' Company, who gave Mermaids £10k in 2020.

Datun · 08/10/2022 20:12

God almighty. Those bios are a masterclass in misleading word salad.

TheClogLady · 08/10/2022 20:25

Missed the second page of that blog page - trying to find out who actually spoke at this conference because I’m
really starting to worry that we have a shit load of actual Paedos influencing school policy.

markcarrigan.net/2014/02/07/cfp-educating-young-people-about-sex/

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Datun · 08/10/2022 20:29

Moral panic about the sexualisation of youth?

ValancyRedfern · 08/10/2022 20:30

ArabellaScott · 08/10/2022 20:10

Oh, aye. Noting Meg John Barker is partner of Edward Lord, who is a Freeman of the Leathersellers' Company, who gave Mermaids £10k in 2020.

The Leathersellers are the sponsors of most of the state secondaries near me.

BewaretheIckabog · 08/10/2022 20:35

Someone said about the exponential growth of MM and having funds and a national presence. Suddenly Stonewall et al championing a relatively small charity who clearly did not have the leadership, experience, knowledge and processes in place.

I’m beginning to think this was no moment of luck but part of a far more sinister strategy.

Not normally a conspiracy theorist but SG was a middle-aged, white mum and I now think a great puppet. I am not excusing Or minimising SG’s behaviour or homophobia.

But she found herself lauded and her choices validated. She was invited to be on boards and expert panels and she fell for it hook, line and sinker.

For people with much more nefarious interests and a different agenda SG and Mermaids with their sparkly unicorn ideas = perfect patsies.

TheClogLady · 08/10/2022 20:45

Datun · 08/10/2022 20:29

Moral panic about the sexualisation of youth?

Exactly Datun! Academia has been trying to reframe safeguarding as moral panic for at least 8 years!

I’ve had enough of it, frankly.

These weirdos have absolutely shit-all to do with ordinary LGB people and we all have to put our big, sensible, up-to-the-bellybutton-pants on and stop worrying about looking uncool or right wing or bigoted or whatever.

Enough! All this shit out of our schools now!

deepwatersolo · 08/10/2022 20:50

What is teachers’ gender identities and sexual subjectivities in the process of teaching‘ all about?

Handsoffmyrights · 08/10/2022 20:56

ArabellaScott · 08/10/2022 20:10

Oh, aye. Noting Meg John Barker is partner of Edward Lord, who is a Freeman of the Leathersellers' Company, who gave Mermaids £10k in 2020.

Lord, who is a Ken Plummer fan.

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ResisterRex · 08/10/2022 20:58

The NHS development is in the Telegraph and it seems like they're linking it with the RSE lessons story they also reported today, though I may not be reading it right:

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/10/08/nhs-staff-told-not-promote-mermaids-trans-charity/

"A spokesman for NHS Black Country ICB said: “GPs often signpost to a range of support for children, young people and their families who may have gender-related queries. We took a decision to make GPs from the Black Country aware of media coverage relating to the charity Mermaids and suggested that they consider not promoting the service at this time, due to the ongoing safeguarding investigations by the Charity Commission and given the fact that the charity’s helpline was suspended.”
It comes after this newspaper revealed on Friday that the Information Commissioner has ruled that parents do not have the right to see the content of sex education lessons urging children to become transgender allies.
Material aimed at children aged 12 and above provided by The School of Sexuality Education includes links to Mermaids and a seven-minute video urging students to become “trans allies”."
Other story:

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/10/07/parents-blocked-checking-childs-trans-sex-education-lessons/

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TheClogLady · 08/10/2022 20:59

deepwatersolo · 08/10/2022 20:50

What is teachers’ gender identities and sexual subjectivities in the process of teaching‘ all about?

Quite!

Keep your ‘sexual subjectivity’ to yourself, teacher!

No one should have to keep their long term partner or co parent secret but beyond that aspect? No!

Same goes for straight teachers/bi teachers in het relationships. Leave your whole self at home and bring your work self to work.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 08/10/2022 21:02

Queering the primary curriculum has been a stated aim of groups of activists / educators for some time . Shelley Charlesworth has done considerable research for Transgender Trend looking at the No Outsiders programme. It's worth reading down to look at the details of seminars that were run as part of a research project at the University of Sutherland way back in 2006 - 2008. One of the seminars looked at the following questions:

At what cost do we deny children’s and teacher’s sexuality?
What would it take to teach queerly? How would teachers' and children's bodies be implicated in this? What sort of subversions and reversals would it entail?
What do we lose if desire and pleasure are banned from the classroom?
What is the place of the research team members’ own bodies, desires and pleasures in this research?’

Remember - these are adults speaking about primary aged children. So many red flags flying it's amazing the whole place didn't sail away.

So certain individuals have been working at queering the primary curriculum with massive public funding for over 15 years.

www.transgendertrend.com/no-outsiders-queering-primary-classroom/

WarriorN · 08/10/2022 21:03

Meg John Barker works with Justin of BISH

TheClogLady · 08/10/2022 21:06

And Meg, who wrote the gender and sexual diversity policy for BACP (which has clearly leaked into schools via the charity Place2be who put counsellors into schools).

www.place2be.org.uk/our-services/services-for-schools/

www.place2be.org.uk/page/bacp/

www.place2be.org.uk/page/bacp/

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/3339137-BACP-Gender-Sexual-and-Relationship-Diversity-by-Dr-Meg-John-Barker

Seeing as Meg John hosted a conference with Breslow as a presenter (4 years after the conference in all the news articles) I think it’s time that Place2Be were reported to the Charities Commission…

WarriorN · 08/10/2022 21:07

I'm sure Meg John had something to do with the welsh RSE curriculum and was googling; Meg John is everywhere

www.bacp.co.uk/media/5877/bacp-gender-sexual-relationship-diversity-gpacp001-april19.pdf

WarriorN · 08/10/2022 21:07

Cross post!

RUFISRUF · 08/10/2022 21:17

This is getting crazy now. It’s like this was all hiding in plain sight, women were screaming about it but no one did anything. This is as is the Jimmy Saville and kids club scandal had a baby. Surely with all this evidence something will be done? Or am I being way too optimistic

TheClogLady · 08/10/2022 21:18

Allsorts need reporting too, what the fuck are they doing at conference with Breslow?

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RUFISRUF · 08/10/2022 21:20

According to Breslau he didn’t know what the group he was presenting to did. It was all completely innocent.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 08/10/2022 21:28

RUFISRUF · 08/10/2022 21:17

This is getting crazy now. It’s like this was all hiding in plain sight, women were screaming about it but no one did anything. This is as is the Jimmy Saville and kids club scandal had a baby. Surely with all this evidence something will be done? Or am I being way too optimistic

Regrettably until the scandals hit the courts, I suspect even rigorous journalists will hesitate. It will take an immense amount of effort to draw all this together and - as we saw from Savile - people in charities, teachers, those seemingly doing good are protected by their apparent virtue - until the truth finally emerges.

It may be that the unbelievable discussions seminars about sex and young children are enough - you'd hope so? But these days with boundaries having been so successfully breached, I'm not sure

AnonymousABC · 08/10/2022 21:42

ValancyRedfern · 08/10/2022 20:30

The Leathersellers are the sponsors of most of the state secondaries near me.

NC for obvious reasons. I wanted to pick up on this point. I used to work for one of those schools, years ago. I had some contact with the Leathersellers Company. They provided governors and took a great interest in the school. I never met Edward Lord to my knowledge. When I found about him a long time after I left the school I was electrified as he sounds totally different from the people I met, who were thoroughly decent, community-minded men (it's an all male institution) leading very conventional lives. I have no way of knowing for sure, but my hunch is that Mx Lord has been the one pushing donations to Mermaids. As far as I can see, they approved a substantial donation to Mermaids in 2018 or thereabouts, possibly payable over two or three years. It's all gone very quiet on the Leathersellers Twitter account since then, as they got a lot of pushback at the time. Too much to hope someone looked into matters and decided Mx Lord's recommendations shouldn't be followed so uncritically in future?

I note that Lord isn't on the Federation governing body. That should limit any possible damage.

TheClogLady · 08/10/2022 21:45

Some more tentacles.

Meg John’s website www.rewriting-the-rules.com/gender/trans-and-sex/

where MJ slags off JK and bigs up Mermaids…

and despite MJ no longer being a therapist, lots of NHS influence…

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TheClogLady · 08/10/2022 21:48

Barrett of course, is a name FWR regulars will recognise from the prisons policy documents…

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deepwatersolo · 08/10/2022 21:53

Not one big name in Queer Theory (including Judith Butler) has ever spoken out against paedophilia as’ a line not to be crossed’, because its aim is to subvert ALL norms and break EVERY taboo (see Derrick Jensen‘s Queer Theory Jeopardy on YouTube for a succinct summary of the ideology), it was to be expected that paedophiles would gather under that tent.

The fascinating thing is how readily media and the current crop of LGBT spokespersons are giving cover.

TheClogLady · 08/10/2022 22:02

Oh great.

Breslow’s brother Aaron, who also studied queer theory, sits on the board of a US charity for intersex children:

interactadvocates.org/board/

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