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Mermaids being investigated by the charity commission

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MajorieEks · 29/09/2022 16:22

“hoisted by their own petard” never seemed more apt, if true

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 03/10/2022 13:38

Owen Jones has 100% changed his Twitter profile pic to that library alien in order to try and deflect away from the shit going on with Mermaids.

The desperation really is becoming palpable.

They all are. Sad little boys. Laugh it up, it won't change anything about the backlash against groups such as Mermaids.

KatMcBundleFace · 03/10/2022 13:46

Oh bless him, I'm glad he likes the little alien, it's about the right level for him.

TheClogLady · 03/10/2022 14:05

‘Little Owen Jones and His Alien Sex Friend’ (sic) might just be the Harry Potter follow up JK owes the world.

KittenKong · 03/10/2022 14:15

Grown up (well) men without kids being so invested in cartoon characters… not a good look.

Handsoffmyrights · 03/10/2022 14:45

It's just been a house of horrors with no gatekeeper.

I hope LOJ and all those fawning over Mermaids and enabling this consider how they have participated in the pain, misery and exploitation.

Ramblingnamechanger · 03/10/2022 14:58

Discussed on Woman’s hour today. The BBCs expert on “LGBTI and identity issues “owas explaining this case but also brought in Mermaids case against the LGBA. It sounded as though she was reading a series of statements from Mermaids rather than looking at the actual issues, and Emma’s questions were not really answered. A letter or email came in from someone involved but Emma said it would be read later. It wasn’t . However although breast binders were talked about, the dangers were underemphasised in the Mermaids materials. I would love to know what other messages came in while on air.

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 03/10/2022 15:13

What, Owen ‘transwomen for the win’ Jones is behaving like childish twerp? I’m all astonishment

it always makes me think of the jock giving his history report in Bill and Ted’s Excellent Adventure who signs off with ‘SanDimasHighschoolFootballRules!’ , safe in the knowledge that he can be as crap as he likes but saying the right but meaningless thing will get him applause

ResisterRex · 03/10/2022 15:21

Another thread on the Mermaids trustee:

twitter.com/gender_gnrha/status/1576913705245155328?s=46&t=JxyryZ-3N6bYTU3Xgt1XHw

TheClogLady · 03/10/2022 15:41

Jesus fucking Christ on a Raleigh grifter…

my eyebrows are so high I look like I’ve had a full on Dynasty/Dallas style facelift.

wtf were Green and her fishy friends thinking!

Cuppasoupmonster · 03/10/2022 15:46

Owen just makes me laugh at this point. His moment in the sun is fading, he’s getting on a bit, he’s trying to stay in the young’n’kool camp but he doesn’t even have blue hair or a septum piercing, so how cool is he really? (Sarcasm)

He’s never had a real job outside of the think tank/commentary bubble, his trace of a northern accent doesn’t hide the fact he had a very privileged upbringing. He harps on about missing the north yet stays firmly in the confines of his bourgeois London crowd.

He reminds me of some of the boys in my very middle class sixth form, so used to scoring top marks on paper that they assume their opinion on everything is the right one and completely lack any self awareness.

YouSirNeighMmmm · 03/10/2022 15:53

TheClogLady · 03/10/2022 12:09

Who the fuck thought ‘oh yea, academic known for writing about dodgy sex stuff and the queering of childhood? - Perfect for trustee of a charity working with vulnerable kids and teens!’

At least Rubberwankman didn’t list his hobbies directly on his CV!

or at least, I hope he didn’t.

I think the reality is that mermaids see absolutely nothing wrong with sexualizing children and exposing them to fetishes.

YouSirNeighMmmm · 03/10/2022 15:56

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 03/10/2022 12:46

So the Chair is the longest standing trustee, and she was appointed in 2019. Half the rest were appointed last year and the others in July this year. That looks surprising to me, and also worrying. Wouldn't it be more usual for people to come and go at different times, and for a charity that's been around for a long time now to have some old hands still involved? I seem to recall there was a point, maybe two or three years ago, when quite suddenly Mermaids was down to about two or three Trustees. Nobody seemed to blink an eye about that either.

Don't the people making these massive grants to Mermaids do any due diligence?

They have to be quitting out of self-preservation. Surely they should be making concerns known on the way out, otherwise they have FAILED in their duties as trustees. Are they scared of being cancelled for raising concerns.

Actually, in all seriousness is there an argument that given the success of cancelling gender critical women it is literally impossible to have proper safeguards put in place at places like stonewall and mermaids, because it is literally impossible to conceive of anyone raising concerns without being fearful?

YouSirNeighMmmm · 03/10/2022 16:00

"wtf were Green and her fishy friends thinking!"

"I took my child to thailand aged 15 to be castrated, sterilized and his penis inverted. I want to surround myself with people who make me look less of a child-abusing freak"?

TheClogLady · 03/10/2022 16:01

Yes, ok, I can see how that works now you’ve laid the context out!

NecessaryScene · 03/10/2022 16:07

wtf were Green and her fishy friends thinking!

I suspect a part of it is that Green and others running it have been getting a bit of stick on Twitter for being "white cis binary normative blah blah blah". Some of the more extreme TRAs are beginning to see them as "not one of us". Being merely a "trans kid"'s mum isn't much credibility, even if you did super-duper-"affirm".

I think there probably has been an deliberate urge to "queer up" the staff, which will have increased an urge to both find people with the right individual "identities", or people working in the queer theory area, who have the right sort of "we're totally not straight cisheteronormative" vibe.

Imagine the prestige having a real queer theory academic on the board!

("You've got an ology, you're a scientist!")

IvyTwines · 03/10/2022 16:13

@BernardBlacksWineIcelolly "and now he’s trustee of a children’s charity"

A children's charity that guides children towards methods of blocking puberty, arresting normal development into adulthood and keeping them looking young.

ArabellaScott · 03/10/2022 16:17

IvyTwines · 03/10/2022 16:13

@BernardBlacksWineIcelolly "and now he’s trustee of a children’s charity"

A children's charity that guides children towards methods of blocking puberty, arresting normal development into adulthood and keeping them looking young.

Sad
ArabellaScott · 03/10/2022 16:43

'this paper argues that this distinction is potentially another step towards the complete re-thinking of paraphilias within the DSM – a step that follows historically and theoretically from the removal of homosexuality'

From his paper at the DSM Symposium program.

Most paraphilias are paraphilias because they involve the non-consensual participation of others.

I don't really know what to say.

KatMcBundleFace · 03/10/2022 17:00

End game isn't it?

Easy as PIE

🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

crsacre · 03/10/2022 17:08

Jacob Breslow's presentation to the B4U-ACT conference in 2011:
"Allowing for a form of non-diagnosable minor attraction is exciting, as it potentially creates a sexual or political identity by which activists, scholars and clinicians can begin to better understand Minor Attracted Persons"
"Many tend to begin with the linkage of pedophilic desire to harmful and abusive relationships and acts, and end up proliferating, rather than questioning, normative gendered and sexual intelligibility."
Breslow was then PhD student at LSE Gender Studies. He is now Associate Prof in the department.
He was appointed trustee of Mermaids in July 2022.

TheBiologyStupid · 03/10/2022 17:14

Q&A with Jacob Breslow:

The move from activism to academia was an important one for me: it enabled me to grapple with some of the theoretical questions which had emerged in my work, and I have since come to see teaching as the main site of my activist practice.

www.lse.ac.uk/Research/researcher-profiles/Jacob-Breslow

Says it all!

TheClogLady · 03/10/2022 17:21

slight detour, I just read this Mermaids article on the Third Sector website (same stuff as the mainstream press, nothing exciting) and it suggested another article which is behind a log in…

is anyone aware that the National Autistic Society is also being investigated?

Considering they have Mermaids links on their website, are dots about to be joined?

www.thirdsector.co.uk/charity-investigated-teacher-sword-child-eating-dead-rat/governance/article/1799962

www.autism.org.uk/advice-and-guidance/what-is-autism/autism-and-gender-identity

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Datun · 03/10/2022 17:22

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 03/10/2022 12:14

Dr Jacob Breslow seems to fall into the ‘well dodgy’ category based on that thread

one of the chapters in his book is entitled ‘desiring the child’. It it he looks at a child performing sexually explicit dance moves and finds himself ‘caught up in exhilarating waves of memory, identification and desire: a wish’

and now he’s trustee of a children’s charity

i’m not sure there’s an expletive that covers this

Trustee of a charity that tweeted they're looking for vulnerable teens with no parental support - at Pride.

MrsJamin · 03/10/2022 17:24

Just when you think you can't be shocked by the absolute clusterfuck that is Mermaids, they stoop even lower than expected. Just... OMG.
(as an aside, his researchgate Research Interest Score is utterly pathetic - how he gets funding I have no idea, since his work seems to exist in a vacuum of next to no others citing his work).

ImherewithBoudica · 03/10/2022 17:26

I've lost any capacity to be surprised at this point. I am however watching with a kind of sick fascination to see just how far all this can go before hitting a boundary. From responsible parties, who should have taken their thumbs out of their behinds and done something years ago.

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