Sussex Police claim gc views are 'hate' when women call a paedophile a man

[ArabellaScott]

Extraordinary exchange on Twitter.

'This is a man, committing sexual offences against children'

'Hi, Sussex Police do not tolerate any hateful comments towards their gender identity regardless of crimes committed. This is irrelevant to the crime that has been committed and investigated. Sussex Police'

'Sussex Police, I am exercising my gender critical views, which are protected in law. Can you advise whether making such statements is a crime?'

'Hi, you can familiarise yourself with what is regarding as hate on our website here: orlo.uk/k3sOL. If you have gender critical views you wish to express this can be done on other platforms or your own page, not targeted at an individual. Sussex Police'

twitter.com/sussex_police/status/1574708767287115780

Even when this person wasn’t IDing as a woman when the crimes were committed, and still is not ‘legally a woman’ now?

In my contact with Sussex police, I didn't mention his gender, neither did most other people in their comments; so I think Sussex police response is null and void.

If they lock him up in with women and children, he's not getting a prison sentence, he's getting a reward.
Don't they see this? Or was this the aim all along?

On Radio 4 Today now. Well just finished, approximately 07:40. 1 hour and 40 minutes in to the programme.

There was a case recently when police issued a photo of a 'woman' they were looking for. I think it even said he may disguise himself as a man!

Yes @Wildfloral that's my response. Heightened by the difficulty feeling free to talk about it with others, I have a constant thread of visceral unease in my body ATM. It's exactly the reaction I feel whenever I read or watch something dystopian- like The Handmaid's Tale. That's why I'm on here, I feel like the world is going mad and people around me can't see it. Deeply destabilising. So glad that there does at least seem to be a growing awareness in the media, although it does at this point still feel like an unstoppable juggernaut.

I can't write to my MP

Your comment has made the Evening Standard and the Home Secretary has responded 👍

www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-sussex-63055024

www.itv.com/news/meridian/2022-09-28/sussex-police-apologises-after-row-over-transgender-sex-offenders-status

My partner was like this a couple of years ago. To the extent that I had to stop talking about it as it caused massive rows. He has slowly come round now, but it’s small steps. I think part of the problem was that he kept saying , not all men, you hate men, blah blah. The media is doing a pretty good job now so I discuss it more.

Unless I'm missing something neither the BBC nor the ITV news reports on this mention the very significant fact that this man will be housed in a women's prison.

It's almost like they don't want the wider world to know (and get angry) about it.

He was “living as a man” ??? He is a man.

in that case am I living as a woman now? If that’s the case can I go for a run late at night and feel safe as I’m not really a woman?

r4 omitted the fact that legally this was and is a man and off to a woman’s jail.

I can't write to my MP

I'm inclined to think that MPs like Sobel particularly need to be written to, by as many constituents as possible.

agree they might not respond but if you ask them to ask a question to a minister then they have to respond .. if they don't you might have grounds for a complaint against them - check parliamentary standards

How in hell have UK establishments such as police forces, political parties, universities, schools, NHS, unions, etc. been convinced that any men can be women? How the fuck has this happened?

Yes. How many hundreds and thousands of people in positions of influence and with the power to intervene simply by saying 'Surely not? Surely it can't be right to put a man, because that's what he is, isn't he, despite the dress and the lipstick, into a women's prison? Surely it can't be right that men can walk into women's changing rooms at the gym and share their showers and loos?' just signed the paperwork okaying it in the hope of an easy life. How can any Labour MP who's supported GI, like John Sobel, expect to continue as an MP?

Stonewall became a sacred cow. They got £££ from ‘people’ to push this line. It benefits men and us misogynistic.

It's almost like the female inmates who are being used as props to this pedophile don't count.

Oh wait!

Male sex offender commits heinous crimes against children, UK government says here you are then we have a prison full of women, babies and young people for you, enjoy. I despair. And Lisa Nandy and Alex Sobel and others in Labour are totally ok with this, they actually think it is right? And our ancestors 200 years ago were absolutely clear that it was wrong that men and women should be imprisoned together and knew that women prisoners should have female guards only, despite all the other awful things they allowed at that time?

Errol I have written regularly to Sobel. Never get a reply , I think he just bins the letters.

Key piece of information missing there.

Ask yourselves WHY women are objecting to this male being called a woman. It's not out of linguistic fussiness, it's BECAUSE HES BEING SENT TO A WOMENS PRISON.

Any politician involved in this shitshow should be damn well ashamed. How did you allow this to happen?

Is there not some way to challenge this? This is a pretty basic failure to do one of the main parts of his job (engage with his constituents). If you did that in any other job you'd face the sack. If I just refused to respond to customers in my job I'd lose my job and rightly so. If he's not even providing a waffly response at all that's a total failure, it's not even lip service.

How can they be paid so much and have so little accountability?

You can't really blame the Labour Party for this though.

This is happening under a Tory Government.

As far as I can tell there is NO BASIS in law to allow this man to enter the women's estate given that he is :

-Not even legally a woman (even under the legal fiction of a GRC).
-When the crimes were committed he didn't even 'identify' as a woman , whatever the fuck that means.
-it contravenes the Geneva Convention.

Now I think the Labour Party would fast track this in law but why the fuck don't the current Government put a stop to it?

I just don't understand how this can even happen.

In a properly functioning democracy we’d have a properly functioning opposition to challenge this practice of putting men in women’s prisons.