Men in women's changing rooms

[Moggyd]

Just been into Marks and Spencer's changing rooms and there was a man sat outside the cubicle waiting for his partner. Right next to the big mirror where you come out and look. I didn't feel comfortable at all and wouldn't come out of the cubicle to show my friend the dress. I spoke to the member of staff and she said it was a recent change and men can go into the what was ladies changing rooms now because a few men have kicked off recently when refused entry. I feel pretty angry about this. Interestingly there was a sticker inside my friend's changing room as attached. Not put there by Marks. What do others think?

Where are these reviews?

Look at each item on their website. I only hope, for their sake, crossdressingpete and friends spend enough to keep M&S going because I won't be spending money there

You know I've never actually even clicked until this post that most shops changing rooms are for everyone lol! It clearly hadn't even phased me that I am changing next door to a male. I recently went to m&s for bra measurements and was trying them on with the assistant my DD was sat outside the room waiting and there was a guy waiting on his wife also being fitted and I never even blinked and eye lid that I was stood there in my bra. Weird I've never ever noticed this xxx

www.marksandspencer.com/tivoli-mesh-high-leg-knickers/p/clp60545699?color=NAVY

About two or three years ago many of us wrote to M and S about their policies about this. The responses were unanimously dismissive of womens views and many of us vowed that we would not use the stores again. Nothing has changed our mind.

www.marksandspencer.com/tivoli-mesh-thong/p/clp60545704?color=NAVY

What would a woman need to be “held still”?

www.marksandspencer.com/5-pack-cotton-rich-lace-trim-full-briefs/p/clp60437456?color=BLACK

Remember, these are all moderated.

@OverTheHillAndDownTotherSide not sure about the held still bit either!

His meat and two veg?

Oh wait you said woman 😂 misread.

Anyway those are 🤢🤢🤢

It's a shame I used to enjoy the occasional clothing shopping trip but if I'm not safe/private in woman's only changing rooms (or completely lockable cubicles that open directly onto the shop floor) then I just don't feel welcome.
I now just shop online - mostly secondhand because it all looks the same online and I don't spend as much because it's so boring.

Shame because it will be sad when the high street goes, but I guess we'll still have the coffee and interior shop and nail bars.

I don’t understand what point you’re trying to make in all these comments. A woman was so disturbed by finding a man in the women’s changing room that she no longer felt comfortable coming out and showing her friend what she was trying on. Is that hard to understand? If so, why? It seems pretty understandable to me.

Men/handmaidens seeking to shame women into obliterating women's well-founded boundaries.

Nasty bastards, in other words. Women have boundaries for a reason. Mostly involving men and male sexual perversions and violence. But M&S fail to see ...

I hoe you didn’t buy anything there @Moggyd and I hope you spoke to a manager to tell them that.

It’s all about men who think they’re women wanting validation by admittance to women’s spaces.

@PaperTrails "When I came out of the changing room his two kids were there. Both boys. Getting a lesson from both their parents that it's ok for a man just to walk into a women's changing room."

That is pretty much what the boys were being taught. Same as if a man were to take his young DD into the female change room or a mum her DS into the men's, totally inappropriate. Adults are entitled to privacy from opposite sex adults in these places.

I was in Marks the other day and exactly the same with a man plonked right in the middle waiting for his partner. Had obviously waited until no staff around as when an assistant spotted him, she went straight over and asked him to leave, which he did.

Seems some have had the memo and others not.

When I was pregnant recently, I went shopping in M&S for maternity leggings.

It turned out that M&S had stopped selling all maternity clothes in store and I could only buy them online (with an extra charge for shipping, of course).

So, it seems to me that M&S care about including men in women's spaces and they care about serving certain sorts of women, but they are not interested in providing an in-store service for pregnant women.

Now I have a child and I don't bother shopping in M&S for either of us. That's okay, though, because I don't suppose a working mother with a young child is in any way the target demographic for M&S.

Yuk those reviews! At least they don’t have photos - unlike amazon (some of those are yikes/semi porn).

My husband wouldn't even do that as he wouldn't want to look a weirdo?! Sat in the middle of a bunch of female changing cubicles like a pest.

What's wrong with the old way of coming out dressed and showing your husband/ partner outside while he sits bored at the entrance of the changing room? Did anyone ever complain about that?

Shops can't keep up with what is expected of them through fear of a backlash or they are trying to be the trend setters of oh look how forward thinking we are and inclusive, (meanwhile let's fuck everyone else off).

Most people don't want to be stood and be looked up and down and throw in a few twirls and what do you think in-front of anyone they don't know?

This!
In with my daughter who is 12 & very self conscious, man lounging about on seats in middle.
None of the curtains close properly & half naked folk wld be on view in the big mirror.
Daughter was mortified, I had to hold curtains for her as she was worried the man would see her.
I spoke to manager as I was leaving & said we were uncomfortable with a man in there, they pretty much just shrugged & said they were allowed.

My partner & son would not dream of going in a woman's changing room & wld always wait outside, as decent men should.

@NightfeedsandNetflix really? That’s not my experience at all, or seemingly the experience by many people who do just that. Unless you block book the changing rooms for only those you know, one always ends up doing that in front of strangers. Doesn’t seem to put people off changing rooms in my experience.

@Ofcourseshecan
yeah, I gues make that’s where we differ as I do find that really hard to understand. She’s done the vulnerable bit of getting changed (while unaware there was a man on the other side of the curtain). I really don’t understand why one would be uncomfortable coming out in a dress in front of the same man. I mean, presumably the OP regularly wears dresses in front of men she doesn’t know, so I don’t get how this is different at all.

Just because you don't get it and it doesn't bother you LemonLymanDotCom, doesn't mean that other women can't feel uncomfortable in the same situation.

Why is everyone about making the men happy all the time? Why isn't it ok for women to have boundaries??