Mermaids vs LGB Alliance and Charity Commissioner - First-tier Tribunal (General Regulatory Chameber) Thread 2

[nauticant]

The Tribunal started on 9 September, witness testimony started on 12 September.

There is also live tweeting from twitter.com/tribunaltweets.

To obtain access to view the proceedings, send a request email to [email protected] about case CA/2021/0013 - Mermaids vs Charity Commissioner and LGB Alliance and ask for permission to join. You then have to provide certain information and agree to a judge's direction in order to be able to join.

Abbreviations:

J or judge: Presiding Judge, Judge Lynn Griffin
AJ or Judge: Assisted by Judge Joe Neville
MG: Mermaids counsel is Michael Gibbon KC
KM: LGB Alliance counsel is Karon Monaghan KC
AR: Karon is assisted by Akua Reindorf
IS: Charity Commission counsel is Iain Steele

Thread 1: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4629679-mermaids-versus-lgb-alliance-in-court-today
Thread 2: ongoing

Witnesses for the applicant (Mermaids):

Paul Roberts - CEO of LGBT Consortium (12 September)
John Nicolson MP - Deputy Chair of the All-Party Parliamentary Group on Global LGBT+ Rights (13 September)
Dr Belinda Bell - Chair of trustees of Mermaids (?? September)

Witnesses for the respondent (LGB Alliance):

Beverley Jackson - Co-founder and trustee of LGB Alliance (?? September)
Kate Harris - Co-founder and trustee of LGB Alliance (?? September)
Eileen Gallagher OBE - Chair of trustees of LGB Alliance (?? September)

Witness Statements:

Paul Roberts: lgballiance.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/Paul-Roberts-Witness-Statement-Exhibits.pdf
John Nicolson MP - Not yet available
Dr Belinda Bell: Not yet available
Beverley Jackson: Not yet available
Kate Harris: Not yet available
Eileen Gallagher: Not yet available

Submissions:

lgballiance.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/Volume-4-Submissions-CA.2021.0013.pdf

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You broke the seal, @BernardBlacksWineIcelolly

Sinister! 😂

There's re-examination where the "friendly" barrister MG can tackle difficult parts of the cross-examination NecessaryScene. In these tribunals this isn't taken much advantage of.

KM: Perhaps we can go back to the question

JN: pontificates endlessly and doesn't answer the question

KM: You are starting to sound like a conspiracy theorist

JN: LGBA like to set hares running, whip up their supporters

KM: you are starting to sound like a conspiracy theorist

The projection is strong with this one

Your starting to sound like a conspiracy theorist 😂😂😂

I guess the point is that they make their "positive" case in their witness statements, so the court proceedings start with cross-examination based on that?

DRINK AGAIN

thanks Karon

🔔 Sinister!

Bernard you're going to be as pissed as a fart this morning.

JN: Politicians work quite late [I wasn't drunk honest]

John Nicolson is a nobody.

There are hundreds of 'APPGs' running via parliament that have no formal status at all, on everthing under the sun including bees to golf to jazz.

The Global LGBT+ one has two Chairs, three Deputy Chairs (including Nicolson) and everyone else in a Vice-Chair - 14 of them. I kid you not.

The previous Chair was Crispin Blunt who stood down after his support for his convicted nonce mate didn't go down well.

JN: [Bev Jackson] was pinned down

Misogynistic language rules

Who said anything about gay men?? He added 'gay', didn't he??

JN is coming across like a conspiracy theorist - everything he has said is not based on reality.

This thread has made it in to ‘Trending’; it didn’t yesterday despite having huge traffic.

He blocked me on Twitter. Never said a word to him. Gets very angry on Twitter so he does.

don’t know why he is a witness ?

Chair of Mermaids next [gets popcorn]

Ooooh

Placemarking

Thanks for the commentary. Very enjoyable.

don’t know why he is a witness ?

Because not many people would be stupid enough to go in to bat for Mermaids for this case.

And because he sees himself as the noble saviour of the LGBTQI++++++++

Place mark and thanks nauticant.

Hard to say which witness, yesterday's or today's, was more helpful to LGBA's case.

I would love to have seen Susie Green appear as a witness.

Next witness is Mermainds chair of trustees I think?

If she says she's not read the Cass Review Interim Report, I might just lose it. I mean. The previous 2 witnesses should have read it, but they aren't a charity claiming to act for families of children who seek treatment at GIDS. Nor do the previous 2 witnesses feature in it.

Wow - John has very clearly shown how much he hates women.

The name Belinda Bell is not familiar to me - anyone got any background?