Mermaids vs LGB Alliance and Charity Commissioner - First-tier Tribunal (General Regulatory Chameber) Thread 2

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The Tribunal started on 9 September, witness testimony started on 12 September.

There is also live tweeting from twitter.com/tribunaltweets.

To obtain access to view the proceedings, send a request email to [email protected] about case CA/2021/0013 - Mermaids vs Charity Commissioner and LGB Alliance and ask for permission to join. You then have to provide certain information and agree to a judge's direction in order to be able to join.

Abbreviations:

J or judge: Presiding Judge, Judge Lynn Griffin
AJ or Judge: Assisted by Judge Joe Neville
MG: Mermaids counsel is Michael Gibbon KC
KM: LGB Alliance counsel is Karon Monaghan KC
AR: Karon is assisted by Akua Reindorf
IS: Charity Commission counsel is Iain Steele

Thread 1: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4629679-mermaids-versus-lgb-alliance-in-court-today
Thread 2: ongoing

Witnesses for the applicant (Mermaids):

Paul Roberts - CEO of LGBT Consortium (12 September)
John Nicolson MP - Deputy Chair of the All-Party Parliamentary Group on Global LGBT+ Rights (13 September)
Dr Belinda Bell - Chair of trustees of Mermaids (?? September)

Witnesses for the respondent (LGB Alliance):

Beverley Jackson - Co-founder and trustee of LGB Alliance (?? September)
Kate Harris - Co-founder and trustee of LGB Alliance (?? September)
Eileen Gallagher OBE - Chair of trustees of LGB Alliance (?? September)

Witness Statements:

Paul Roberts: lgballiance.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/Paul-Roberts-Witness-Statement-Exhibits.pdf
John Nicolson MP - Not yet available
Dr Belinda Bell: Not yet available
Beverley Jackson: Not yet available
Kate Harris: Not yet available
Eileen Gallagher: Not yet available

Submissions:

lgballiance.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/Volume-4-Submissions-CA.2021.0013.pdf

(Header format follows the gold standard established by @ickky)

Whenever my kids accuse me of shouting I’ll tell them I’m just using my Court of Appeal voice

Is it right you have to give a full name to join,?

A legalistic discussion of the meaning of "gender dysphoria" but as we've seen, this has transformed into an umbrella term.

Yes full name required

Some people do slip through with using only forename or initials but if you try it it might not get you in the room.

I was late joining and have been stuck with 'the waiting for the conference host to join' man for the last ten mins - does anyone know if they effectively shut the door at 10am or is it worth hanging on/retrying?

I've been using just my first name...

BJ: "I don't understand how you can have medical treatment when you don't have a medical condition."

I do. Munchausen's syndrome, and the proxy variant.

I'm having the same issue today, Lipbalm.

I was logged in early and of course my laptop needed to restart right at that moment. 🙄

I see John Nicolson has tweeted last night about giving evidence

Worth hanging on - there are 53 waiting to enter

Balls, I have a very unique name. Meh

Redshoe, should he be doing that??

Let's not forget that Mermaids recruited a 'strategic litigation' expert six months ago...

sarahphillimore.substack.com/p/gizza-job-this-is-a-truly-exciting

Ooh, I'm in now @Ameanstreakamilewide - thank you & keep on hanging on!

I'll be patient then, Lipbalm. 👍🏻

Ditto now!

BJ sounding very measured and knowledgeable, unlike previous witnesses.

Oh dear..... 'stroppy' people is now going to be held over Bev and Kate?

Once he has finished giving evidence, he is free to discuss.

The honesty and clarity of Bev's testimony is refreshing to hear.

I like how BJ refuses to turn on other people- she has a strong sense of integrity

BJ: "It's not about people and that's the problem." She then explains it's about the belief system.

She is absolutely bang on here.

What is he asking?

This hearing is highlighting that the other side really don't understand the "gender critical" position.

Morning all. This is hard work.