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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Mermaids versus LGB alliance in court today??

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GrabbyGabby · 09/09/2022 07:46

www.theguardian.com/society/2022/sep/09/trans-charity-mermaids-appeal-lgb-alliance-status

Not sure if it is today or next week. Do we know if this is open like the tribunals?

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Mmmnotsure · 13/09/2022 10:25

KM you've told tribunal everything you want them to know in your witness statement. Focus on the questions and answer them.

JN I'm entitled to express myself in my own words - and then goes off again.

Entitled, indeed

JN you're advocating a case.
KM no, I'm asking questions

ickky · 13/09/2022 10:26

He is an MP, there is zero chance of getting him to answer a question.

ImNotAnExpert · 13/09/2022 10:26

Rocco, put your tail down.

chilling19 · 13/09/2022 10:26

right I need a coffee

Chrysanthemum5 · 13/09/2022 10:26

KM having to work to stop him acting likes he's giving a speech in parliament - he does not like being questioned

Chrysanthemum5 · 13/09/2022 10:27

I'm missing Judge Goodman - she wouldn't let JM witter on like this

dworky · 13/09/2022 10:28

Still waiting to be let in, nearly 30mins now.

Redshoeblueshoe · 13/09/2022 10:28

I'm following via tribunal tweets, and they seem to be stalling, from reading your posts I guess they are astounded by his arrogance

ickky · 13/09/2022 10:29

Isn't Scotland Rape Crisis run by a transwoman? No wonder they have no concerns.

Chrysanthemum5 · 13/09/2022 10:29

@dworky 11 people waiting so shouldn't be long

ickky · 13/09/2022 10:30

dworky · 13/09/2022 10:28

Still waiting to be let in, nearly 30mins now.

Shouldn't be long now, there are only 10 waiting to join now, there were over 60 a while ago.

Signalbox · 13/09/2022 10:30

Keeps going on about being born in the wrong body. I thought trans activists never used this term.

Chrysanthemum5 · 13/09/2022 10:31

Really pushing this 'born in the wrong body' narrative - has he not read the script? Even Mermaids have moved away from that

Ameanstreakamilewide · 13/09/2022 10:32

He reckons it's offensive to say that no one is born in the wrong body.

Didn't Mermaids suddenly say that was also their stance?? Hence the Buttergasp...

ickky · 13/09/2022 10:33

Is it really the majority view?

Chrysanthemum5 · 13/09/2022 10:33

No JM it is not a view held by the majority of women in Scotland - it's the majority in your echo chamber

chilling19 · 13/09/2022 10:34

JN - the irony of stating the right to free speech.

Mmmnotsure · 13/09/2022 10:36

JN: I'm a man. Accepting someone else's rights doesn't diminish my rights.

  1. how does he know?
  2. wot? Depends on what are these 'rights'.
ickky · 13/09/2022 10:38

Focus on the question has to go on the bingo card.

Signalbox · 13/09/2022 10:38

Lol ... KM now talking to JN as if he is a 5 year old child.

Judge telling JN to answer the questions.

chilling19 · 13/09/2022 10:39

Judge is weighing in

chilling19 · 13/09/2022 10:39

Judge 👏👏👏👏

nauticant · 13/09/2022 10:41

J is getting tired of a politician giving mini speeches instead of answering questions.

JN talks about democracy but something tells me his view of what the word means would differ from what many people understand it to mean.

FemaleAndLearning · 13/09/2022 10:41

Datun · 13/09/2022 08:56

I'm not sure why 'focusing on the T' was considered a legitimate point of criticism by mermaids in the first place. If yesterday's session showed anything, it's that the 'T' is a direct threat to homosexuality.

Surely fighting to stop the very meaning of homosexuality being erased is a powerful and justified mission in itself?

And the two opposing sides are in no way equal. Homosexuality is protected by law. Trans ideology supporting charities cant just re-write the entire concept of sexual orientation!

The surprising part, to me, is that there aren't more organisations publicly opposing trans ideology. Its a hostile takeover. It should be being challenged by everyone, including the government whose laws it's flouting.

I agree how can LGBA talk about rights and protections if they dont denounce gender identity ideology. I fortunately they do need to talk about TQ even though their focus is LGB. Mermaids have such a weak argument against LGBA being a charity, particularly now their focus is on gender diverse children. Are they gender diverse ie non conforming or are they trans? If Mermaids are using the affirmation model then all gender diverse children are trans and many will be lesbian or gay.

Also the Charity Commission have told off LGBA about their social media and changes were made, so that is historical too surely they can't drag up the past when the government already made its decision?

www.gov.uk/government/news/charity-commission-confirms-registration-of-lgb-alliance#:~:text=The%20Charity%20Commission%20has%20decided,onto%20the%20Register%20of%20Charities.&text=LGBA%20applied%20to%20register%20as,is%20set%20out%20in%20law.

chilling19 · 13/09/2022 10:42

KM - getting icier

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