Mermaids versus LGB alliance in court today??

[GrabbyGabby]

www.theguardian.com/society/2022/sep/09/trans-charity-mermaids-appeal-lgb-alliance-status

Not sure if it is today or next week. Do we know if this is open like the tribunals?

The clerk is still letting people in for those in the lobby

Nicholson uses "born in the wrong body" formulations. Hmm, that's rather behind the times.

Yes still waiting for the conference host to join. The technical issues are ridiculous

He's mis-stating the law and adding things that aren't in there, eg the 2 years includes accessing spaces "for the opposite gender".

I think that Mermaids etc are right (ha, never thought I would type those words) that LGBA have focused disproportionately on fighting the TRA narrative rather than supporting LGB people generally

But actually, there's a good reason for fighting the TRA narrative, because trans activism is now the biggest threat to lesbian and gay people.

I agree - the justification for LGBA having a large focus on combating gender ideology would be that it is currently a major threat to gay people, particularly lesbians and gay teens. Not the only threat of course, but a major one.

Nicholson already butting in

He reckons the conditions for applying for a GRC are 'very intrusive'. 🤨

Yes, worse than the last two.

Arrogant

What an arrogant prick.

He reckons the word 'child' is an 'emotive term'.

KM disagrees.
'It's a term recognised in law'

Do we get to see the bundle? There is nothing in the chat box.

lgballiance.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/Volume-4-Submissions-CA.2021.0013.pdf

Ickky - the bundle is downloadable on LGBA website

He's the embodiment of arrogance.

KM trying to get him to agree that change to GRA is a fundamental change. JN makes a political speech about GRA reform.

KM is going to have her work cut out here

He would undoubtedly say the same thing about words such as "male" and "female".

If having words to describe concepts which exist, in nature or law or both, upsets you, personally I think that's a you problem.

Nicholson pontificating on

Thank you @nauticant & @chilling19

KM is letting him make political speeches at length. Not sure why.

KM is going to have to manage JN quite carefully or she will run out of time. He sees each answer as an opportunity to make a political speech.

OMG - he really cannot shut up

Yes you are right.

KM just told him off, by basically saying 'shut your face, or we'll be here all day if you keep on with this bullshit'.

But she said it nicer than that!