Mermaids versus LGB alliance in court today??

[GrabbyGabby]

www.theguardian.com/society/2022/sep/09/trans-charity-mermaids-appeal-lgb-alliance-status

Not sure if it is today or next week. Do we know if this is open like the tribunals?

This witness is really struggling with the hypothetical questions isn't he?

It's because he reduces every hypothetical down to the individual and there's only one individual that counts and that's a transwoman. Once that's your only focus, you don't need to act according to principles.

Someone has to stand up for Lesbians because it is not going to be your 525 organisations is it?

This man has not spent a single minute of his life considering lesbians.

Horrible combo, isn't it? One bunch of men who don't consider lesbians at all, and another bunch who consider them far too much.

No one is saying that about lesbians

Oh FFS!! Pants on bloody fire!!

Own it you bloody coward, instead of whingeing that the papers are mean and misquoting...... everybody.

Everyone enjoying it?
Give a TRA a spade...

'Never interrupt your enemy when he's making a mistake'.

AR: Someone needs to stand up for lesbians and it might as well be the LGBA if it's not going to be one of your 500+ organisations :)

AR: You are entitled to your view on this and so is LGB Alliance isn't it?

That's the point isn't it.

It's the current attempt to defend it.

As a female homosexual you are graciously permitted to refuse individual people (good luck with that if you're female and it's someone who may immediately call your 'no' transphobic, that's a bloody scary place to be) but you may not choose and voice a sexuality that is exclusively focused on a biological sex class. Because those not in that sex class don't like it.

His answer is sort of that if LGBT organisations are attacked, then for some reason that means that LGB Alliance should not be permitted to campaign.

This guy has an OBE for services to the LGBT community….

You don't think that anyone with GC views should be running a charity in this sector?

No.

He thinks that holding GC beliefs is protected, but not to act on them

AR - You have surrounded yourself with an echo chamber.

That was a remarkable day of testimony by Paul Roberts looking indistinguishable from a person holding prejudicial and bigoted views, who was also surprisingly uninformed.

You don't think that anyone with GC views should be running a charity in this sector?

No.

Wow. They are fucked already. I wish I could watch this, I’m developing a several degrees removed crush on Akua Reindorf.

He is interesting that the colonist Douglas Murray who is gay himself says that the notion that the LGBT are a ‘group’ is a total misnomer. They are not and there are many different interests. The fact that Stonewall has now been taken over by the trans-lobby has made certain founders of Stonewall to withdraw support.

He should have another one for services to the GC community.

the colonist Douglas Murray

Ha! at "colonist".

It's like she's watched Ben Cooper QC & said 'hold my beer' before she started

Have been catching up on the TT twitter thread....I have been open-mouthed with astonishment at some of the answers given. AR is absolutely magnificent!

😁😁😁😁😁

Mr Nicholson tomorrow with possibly starting on the witness following him.

It is a remarkable day indeed.

No wonder Stonewall withdrew so quickly from the initial raising the complaint.

There is no way that Nancy Kelley was ever going to be able to deny the hatred for lesbians who disagree with her and to support her statements. Stonewall would not be able to withstand the onslaught of yet another reputational display of prejudiced behaviour and lack of intelligence.

It's like she's watched Ben Cooper QC & said 'hold my beer' before she started

Just think about what this job entails. You're tasked with putting on a production, effectively as the writer and director.

But you have to work with amateur actors who don't have a script, and who have their own idea of what the play should be about.

To put on a show like this is remarkable.

Mind you, these genderists do have a certain talent themselves. They're almost natural at sending us to amazing dramatic heights.