Mermaids versus LGB alliance in court today??

[GrabbyGabby]

www.theguardian.com/society/2022/sep/09/trans-charity-mermaids-appeal-lgb-alliance-status

Not sure if it is today or next week. Do we know if this is open like the tribunals?

Mermaids can't possibly win.

Great! AR has got to the point - that the 500+ organisations of the consortium don't represent same sex attracted people.

So I am sure she has made the case that LGBA needs to exists.

Now discussing the infamous BBC article about coercion of lesbians to have sex with transwomen.

No concern there for whether the affected children can grow up to have fulfilling sex lives as adults, is there? It's all about how they can used to provide sexual pleasure to other people.

Veronica Ivy tweet mentioned: it's transphobic to have a genital preference.

I wish AR would ask Roberts if he disagreed with Stonewall

As the witness is demonstrating right now, the political ideology is based on demands made of others for non reciprocal values such as respect, self definition, inclusion, etc.

You could argue that it is largely about seeing others in terms of their usefulness and dividing society into givers and takers, with a lot of rage if a designated resource/service provider happens to want to be recognised as an equal, sentient human with the same equality of rights.

Now it's the cotton ceiling.

AR's raised the Cotton Ceiling...

This is nicely establishing (again) that the TQ+ political movement is incompatible with women's rights and with homosexuality.

It's a good case being built up: there's much that is contested, there are reasonable gender critical views, the LGBT establishment has told gender critical people they're not welcome and in fact are hateful/like racists and should be shunned, so what is wrong with an entity like LGB being a charity to represent gender critical people with the reasonableness of their views confirmed by the Bailey case?

Riley Dennis is next up in the parade of nonsense.

"I'm not an expert"

Yes, I agree. AR is doing a sterling job here.

AR: Is it transphobic for someone to say I won't have sex with people with penises.

Roberts won't answer.

Woah.

Eventually he sort of conceded the point because he could see how awful it looked.

Imagine putting yourself in the position where you are obliged to argue these disgusting arguments.

Well, so far my various fivers and tenners for Maya, Allison and LGBA have been worth every penny.

AR coined the phrase "the LGBT activism tree". In other words, a monolith with the implication that if Mermaids prevail, the court would have to agree that organisations existing outside of the monolith shouldn't be permitted.

I'm out of all sympathy.

It didn't have to be like this. This political lobby group have chosen to be this intolerant, to demand that women's rights and homosexual people's rights be overthrown to favour their beliefs instead of a position of mutual tolerance.

They are going to have to be put back in their box. It's long past time.

I get paid this week. I’ll be doing some gardening for the LGBA.

This witness is really struggling with the hypothetical questions isn't he?

This man has not spent a single minute of his life considering lesbians.

AR: Why isn't your organisation concerned about lesbians being put under pressure to drop their sexuals boundaries?

Dismissing the BBC!