Mermaids versus LGB alliance in court today??

[GrabbyGabby]

www.theguardian.com/society/2022/sep/09/trans-charity-mermaids-appeal-lgb-alliance-status

Not sure if it is today or next week. Do we know if this is open like the tribunals?

What's happened a number of times now is this exchange:
LGBA barrister: "What do you think about X?"
Roberts: "It's not a thing."
LGBA barrister: "Here's evidence that X is a thing."
Roberts: "That is incompatible with my world view because it's too binary/the definition is wrong/I've never seen it."

Indeed. Which simply serves to emphasise that homophobia still exists and we need charities like LGBA to fight it.

He comes across as a complete twat. He tried to argue that a removal of a boys penis and testicles wouldn't sterilise the boy. 🙄

Yes! It's so horribly slippery.

Like the kind of person who will only speak in euphemisms. Or maybe he's just really thick.

which is ironic because he's a gay man

it's like some sort of collective madness

Based on the utter incoherence, repeating of mantras in place of engagement and refusal to answer straightforward questions, I'm completely convinced that this witness has spent time posting on FWR. It's so familiar, it could be a medical syndrome.

He's probably GC

Thank you for this thread OP. I support everyone's right to live as they wish as long as they aren't harming anyone else but long been sceptical of the whole aggressive TRAs/TWAW/TMAM thing.

One thing I hadn't realised before reading this thread and and the live Twitter feed was just how homophobic Mermaid/TRAs are. It's shocking they've been allowed to get away with it up until now.

Roberts represents membership org LGBT.

I pop over to their members list and one of the first I spot is AniMagi, here to "educate and promote kink positivity and safe practices"; ie, host Puppy Play events animagi.co.uk/uk-events/

Good luck lads. This isn't going well for you

which is ironic because he's a gay man

but what does either of those words even mean to someone who takes their world view from Mermaids?

'I guess...'

Context for "I guess":

twitter.com/tribunaltweets/status/1569291789692985344

Yeah, I know

he must know what both ‘gay’ and ‘man’ mean though, just as well as we do, and I expect he (perfectly reasonably) conducts his personal life accordingly

it’s just that his job depends on pretending everything is super complicated. It must be so tiring

Jesus wept.

This is just insane.

I CANNOT believe that people like Fanshawe, Harris and Jackson are being hauled over the coals by complete fucking idiots like this.

I felt the same when I saw Kirrin Medcalfe arrive on screen with a cast of thousands (including a dog) to defend decisions Kirrin had made which lead to the bullying of a black, working class, lesbian woman by Stonewall and a human rights chambers.

World has actually gone mad. We let the lunatics run the asylum.

That's the new bingo card sorted out then.

'I guess'

I beg your fucking pardon?

Roberts won't engage with the suggestion that a lesbian couple can have a butch and a femme because the question is based on stereotyping.

I mean I'm not a lesbian and probably not up with specific presentations but this just seems plain rude, it's not so much stereotyping as judging on appearance.
Who is feminine enough to be classed as a woman and who isn't.

Get out those score cards, 1-10

Very school boy behaviour if I'm being kind. Sorry for the stereotyping.

I was on holiday last week with a gay friend in a little Suffolk village. He happened to look on Grindr and the first person to pop up was a gay man. In his exact words this man was looking for 'no-strings sex with other gay men, ideally transwomen.'

I asked my friend if it's unusual for gay men to want sex with transwomen and he explained that 'obviously as a gay man he'd rather have sex with a transwoman than a transman because he likes dick'.

This village is only an hour away from London, and yet here gay men are being extremely open on their Grindr profile about the fact they are same-sex attracted. They are clearly not transphobic if they are happy to meet up with same-sex transpeople.

Roberts would accuse them of being phobic simply because they do not share his view that gender is more important than sex. I think people with views like Roberts are a minority and I think their minority is dwindling.

I think I might be in. Is anyone else in, albeit with a blank screen because it’s lunchtime?
I expected the man with the nice voice and the holding page.

'ANIMAGI CIC is a Reading-based volunteer organisation founded in 2020 focusing on improving education and awareness of typically “taboo” topics such as kinks, fetishes and sex work within the wider LGBTQ+ communities'

These seem to include 'age play', 'twink', and 'watersports' among many others. Going by their merch.

www.etsy.com/uk/shop/ANIMAGICIC

a watersports pride badge there

for whom is pissing on people / being pissed on a source of pride and why? do they not have anything else in their lives to feel proud of?

How long is this case expected to run?

Well, we've just seen someone doing that in public last week, Bernard.

@PastaForLife yep, that's correct.

Back at 14:00 .

ownership pride too

role playing ownership of other human beings is a source of pride? right you are