Lesbians not welcome at Gay Pride

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This is horrifying. Women (lesbians) told by police they are going to be removed because abuse is being hurled at these women.

Police do nothing about the person shouting the abuse.

twitter.com/GetTheLOutUK/status/1563490240912044033

We're definitely learning.

I recommend:

www.amazon.co.uk/Trans-Britain-Christine-Burns/dp/1783528443/ref=asc_df_1783528443/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=344329134678&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=11233419179933534155&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1007850&hvtargid=pla-785981528793&psc=1&th=1&psc=1

People are trying to pass homophobic legislation that will enshrine in law the idea that same-sex attracted people don’t exist, only same gender attracted. This is happening right now. Only these lesbians see what is happening and see where this ideology is leading, to the direct legislative erasure of gay people, yet apparently 90% of LGB people go to Pride and support such ideology. If that’s true, there is an awful lot of LGB people who are going to wake up one day and realise they don’t have any legal protection as a same-sex attracted person any more.

Yep.

mmm! Let’s see how this works. A group experienced in polling, takes a poll covering a sample of the total UK population ensuring for accuracy that it includes samples of all demographics within the UK.

And then…that finding can be extrapolated to reflect the age groups in the entire Uk population.

It will of course, include a sampling of LGBT people. But I didn’t say it was a LGBT
survey. I said ’Shall I post the other YouGov report about just how intolerant the age group 18-28 and 28-38 are in comparison to the rest of the UK society.’

Again, it is your twisting or whatever it is that you usually do that is on full display here.

oh dear! Do you honestly not see the dishonesty and hypocrisy in your posts?

You have again not understood the post.

Again. How many times can you do this across all the threads you post on.

What is it you think you are achieving?

@Hearach15 could you please reply to this? Which LGBT organisations do you think are confusable with the LGBA, which you have called 'transphobic'?

If you were a true trans ally, you would have responded. You didn't, so you are transphobic, or are at least deliberately trying to make trans allies look dishonest and homophobic.

See, I can make shitty, immature, false "arguments" too - anyone can - it doesn't add anything to the discussion because it's just incoherent, dishonest noise. And people deliberately doing that are Not In The Spirit of the site.

I'd still appreciate you clarifying the point you made which I have quoted. The fact you can't even explain what you yourself are talking about half the time is clear to everyone.

Shall I post the other YouGov report about just how intolerant the age group 18-28 and 28-38 are in comparison to the rest of the UK society. That one is eye opening.

Never mind about reading - just watch their antics. A great compilation of the hate mobs of recent years from that "What if JK Rowling is right about everything" video someone did recently - link is to relevant section at 43:00, hopefully.

There is no corresponding behaviour from the other side. You could not do a compilation of feminists yelling at and disrupting trans events, cos it never happens.

(Although I guess sometimes women sit in the audience and ask questions. Or don't laugh at the right times.)

Have you heard of the margin of error and subsampling?

So for example, if you poll people UK wide and ask them how they intend to vote you will get a picture that should be accurate within 3% plus or minus.

However, the margin of error will be much higher within certain regions because you will poll a much smaller number there. That is why the subsample of UK wide polls generally give a very poor picture of Scottish voting opinion because the margin of error is much higher within a subsample.

Explained in detail here:

anthonybmasters.medium.com/the-sub-sample-problem-ed15421c5d39

Scots make up 9% of the UK population, the LGBT population is roughly 5%. So the margin of error is even higher within that poll.

Furthermore, can you tell me whether it was even weighted to include LGBT people? Most polls are weighted by age, region, voting record and gender. Never seen one weighted with the LGBT population in mind. Can you confirm whether this is the case?

LGB Alliance and Get the L Out (of LGBT) are transphobic. Hope that helps!

"You could not do a compilation of feminists yelling at and disrupting trans events"

You must not have read the top post in this thread?? This exactly what Get the L Out did at Pride the other day, keep up!

Sorry I just happen to know that the LGBT community has distinct views the the British general population. As you said yourself, you are not an expert in LGBT matters and this is just another example of you making elementary mistakes when you comment about the community. We are all learners though!

Pride is a trans event? Hmm...

And yet, why would you think that LGBT people will be any more or less tolerant?

What evidence do you have to support that? Your anecdotes?

Yep, good to see it confirmed. Pride is all about the T, which we all know and @Hearach15 confirms.

So you admit pride is a trans event, refreshing honesty for once.

That book you recommended, 'from out of the shadows'! Makes transpeople sound quite sinister. I think that's transphobic.

Also, a reviewer complains all the stories in it are white and middle class .

If we're recommending books read Trans by Helen Joyce.

Calling LGB Alliance a hate group is libellous, hope they're not feeling litigious

Pride is a trans event? Hmm...

Interesting.

So you admit pride is a trans event, refreshing honesty for once

well to be fair they said they were brainwashed the other day so that was very honest as well

This is where we mathematicians break out the QED ("quod erat demonstrandum" - that which was to be demonstrated), and nip off for a beer.

Pride is a trans event? Hmm...

That is a classic.

Although I guess sometimes women sit in the audience and ask questions. Or don't laugh at the right times.

And sometimes lesbians sit on chairs.

Terrifying

So when you said to Wanda "Only someone with no involvement in the community thinks it's full of "straights". You must be confusing the average LGBT organisation with the LGB Alliance. Now that really is a movement for straights. -

you were claiming that Wanda confused 'Get the L Out', which you say is 'the average LGBT organisation', with the LGBA.

But you were saying 'the average LGBT organisation' is one that represents the LGBT community.

So you are NOW claiming that Get The L Out represents the LGBT community which is "why it won't split."

Again - The fact you can't even explain what you yourself are talking about half the time is clear to everyone. And when you try to explain you get caught in untruths.

Sorry I just happen to know that the LGBT community has distinct views the the British general population.

See - what would we do without our self-appointed LGBT expert here to impart such wisdom?
Incoherent, inconsistent word mashup that doesn't say anything.

Interesting that you should recommend a book by Christine Burns.

@PencilsInSpace posted about Burns' previous book Pressing Matters back in 2018.

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/3463920-Lets-go-back-to-2007?reply=83696520

Some interesting bits from that post:
The trans rights movement started with the Beaumont Society - a club for heterosexual cross-dressing men and their wives. TS could join too but they said no to drag queens because homophobia.

The various demographics have been inseparable throughout PFC history. They championed the use of the word trans as it did not discriminate between TS and TV.

So it was never a case of the trans (as in TS) umbrella widening to include TVs and cross-dressers, rather it was the TV and cross-dressers umbrella widening to include TS.

What Christine Burns explains in that book is that the modern trans rights movement started with a group of homophobic, heterosexual, cross-dressing men.

That whole thread is worth a read. 'Trans Britain' gets a mention on there as well.

The way he edited all that is genius.

"My pronouns are they you fucking cunt" is a family joke at Chez Datun.