Ben Cooper QC - Lawyer of the Week (in the Times)

[Justme56]

Sorry I can't share the article, but liked this:

What is the funniest thing that has happened in your job?

As a result of my work in this area, apparently becoming an object of admiration on Mumsnet [the Internet parents' forum] - improbable in many ways.

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embarassing🎯

No, Freddy's a bloke.

Freddy can be as blokey as Freddie wants but Freddie is a female person. Using words to mean their opposite doesn’t prove anything.

"I have not misgendere anyone".

Absolute nonsense, you keep referring to trans men as 'females'. That is misgendering. And you've claimed before that you're "well read" when it comes to trans issues!?

You let the cat out of the bag when you said you were a non expert on LGBT issues. If you don't even know what misgendering is then need to go back and learn some basics.

But they really are female, as in born female, having female rather than male reproductive systems and taking the female role of gestation in sexual reproduction.

"you believe you can take the moral high ground"

I'm happy to take the moral high ground over someone who misgenders trans men by calling them 'female'.

Giving trans people some basic dignity through the use of appropriate language cost absolutely nothing.

My niece is female despite identifying as a transman. It would be idiotic to treat any relevant medical conditions as if they were occurring in a male body.

Be that kind of idiot if you must but do not berate others for having more common sense.

This is comedy gold.

"Male" and "female" are not gender terms. Sex =/= gender, remember.

How do you feel about female transitioners being automatically excluded from screening programmes for cervical cancer, even if they still have a cervix?

I don't think hearache is in an echo chamber, or believes any of the drivel they spout, or thinks Stonewall have won anything, or has any kind of sensible internal monologue to explain transgenderism, or is trying to convince anyone of anything or defend something, or someone, or anyone.

They just like the aggro.

I don't think hearache is in an echo chamber, or believes any of the drivel they spout, or thinks Stonewall have won anything, or has any kind of sensible internal monologue to explain transgenderism, or is trying to convince anyone of anything or defend something, or someone, or anyone.

They just like the aggro.

I know datun.

I have said before that I ceased talking to hearache from the first thread.

Every post allows hearache’s true motives to be revealed by themselves.

I did think maybe the dissonance in their posts would be a crescendo in their head. But as you say, they just like the aggro.

And we have cycled around again. You are very dangerous to trans people hearache.

The fact you are posting this shows your evangelical zeal. Please go and ask each and every one of your trans friends what sex they are? I dare you.

The trans people I know don’t lie about their sex. The trans people we have come on this board and talk to on social media don’t lie about their sex.

I am posting this deliberating with my original quote clearly visible.

Because it shows how out of all that post, what you chose to cherry pick.

That is very telling in itself.

The fact you really do think you have a moral high ground is beyond laughable. I would laugh if it wasn’t so dangerous.

Absolute nonsense, you keep referring to trans men as 'females'. That is misgendering. And you've claimed before that you're "well read" when it comes to trans issues!?

And add this to it your ridiculous comeback above.

Do you actually think I would take someone I loved and took them to the A&E that I would tell medical staff this is a male when they are female that I would be saving their life?

You are a dangerous, dangerous evangelical zealot if you actually believed that.

It was a couple of years ago that lobby groups told us that trans people recognised their sex in a another reverse ferret. I think you missed the memo.

You let the cat out of the bag when you said you were a non expert on LGBT issues. If you don't even know what misgendering is then need to go back and learn some basics.

So this is ALL you have!

And you twist again. I said LGB issues. It is you who cannot for one moment separate the T. I countered this up thread though so readers can see you are now lying again to misrepresent me. I have said it on other threads too. I have been upfront that I have never claimed to have in-depth knowledge on LGB issues. I do feel confident that I have more depth of knowledge about young trans people than you. Still doesn’t mean I have ever claimed ‘expertise’.

I do and will continuously challenge you to support your claims with evidence, and to discuss your claims and the information you present that is verifiably correct in a feminist frame. Which you fail at every time. Every single time.

I will certainly continue to do that. I encourage anyone else to as well. Because you are on a feminist board and there should be no acceptance of misogyny here.

(I can and have pointed out the complete logic disconnects in your paltry claims here and on other threads, based in your own deep prejudice against other LGB people. See, I don’t need expertise in LGB to do that because your claims are easily demonstrated to be based on false logic and, well, lies that you present thinking they are clever gotchas.)

But please keep on trying to twist, deflect and distract because I am not sure that the readers were quite expecting you to have cherry picked that post and come back with that ridiculous double down.

It is a very dishonest posting style. But it also makes very clear there is some kind of disconnect. I doubt that you have a lack of self awareness. I do suspect you think readers are easily distracted fools though. That is not very respectful.

So that is all you have ? Calling me a non-expert? Hilarious. I have not claimed to be an ‘expert’ in feminism either, or in LGB or T topics. I have claimed to be well read within information available on Transgender issues, and have trans people in my daily life who I love.

If all you have to try to dismiss my posts is that I am a ‘non-expert’, It really isn’t much is it?

Good one. Your every post is a study in extremist activism tactics and beliefs. It has been an excellent live demonstration.

Thank you.

Giving trans people some basic dignity through the use of appropriate language cost absolutely nothing.

Another emotionally manipulative statement.

Using the language you suggest and have used, that can harm females and cause them life shortening consequences costs them their lives.

I have not stated anything that strips them of their ‘dignity’. Despite your claims. How bizarre?

If you cannot understand this, I will happily continue to remind you of this every time you post this and other kinds of male centred shite on a feminist thread.

"I don't think hearache is in an echo chamber, or believes any of the drivel they spout, or thinks Stonewall have won anything"

I can assure you I know Stonewall won the case against Allison Bailey. 😀

"You are very dangerous to trans people hearache."

Not referring to trans men as "female" is not dangerous, it is common courtesy and manners.

"And you twist again. I said LGB issues. It is you who cannot for one moment separate the T."

Nope you said you are not an expert on LGBT matters "and I have [been]" and it shows. There is no LGB without the T.

Step away from the keyboard and get involved some LGBT orgs, then you'll learn something about us.

Yeah, stuff like that ^

"'Giving trans people some basic dignity through the use of appropriate language cost absolutely nothing.'

"Another emotionally manipulative statement."

Misgendering is bad, it's not "emotionally manipulative" to say so.

Here's why Harvard Medical School says it's bad:

"When people are misgendered, they feel invalidated and unseen. When this happens daily, it becomes a burden that can negatively impact their mental health and their ability to function in the world."

www.health.harvard.edu/blog/misgendering-what-it-is-and-why-it-matters-202107232553#:~:text=When%20people%20are%20misgendered%2C%20they,to%20function%20in%20the%20world.

Yeah. OK.

that was back threads ago and months ago. That was before I realised how little you actually seem to know about Trans people, particularly young trans people.

Remarkable that you can find evidence of me saying that…. yet post the poorest of evidence to support you other posts… why is that?

And hypocrisy writ large.

Why don’t you step away from the feminist board and stop posting misogynistic shite if my posts bother you so much?

And as I have said on other threads, stop trying to gatekeep who posts here.

"Yeah. OK.

"that was back threads ago and months ago. That was before I realised how little you actually seem to know about Trans people, particularly young trans people."

You've become an expert in the space of two months???

Could I ask what you have done since that has changed this?

What organisations are you volunteering with? Have you been to Pride parades and listened carefully to the speeches about current issues facing the community? What LGBT social events in your community have you been to?

No.

I just realised how little and how narrow your knowledge was.

And how deeply ideological it is.

That is why it is so dangerous. It is not founded on anything but emotions, manipulation and a lack of evidence.

If you are so heavily involved as you want me to be, and still come out with these emotionally manipulative and unevidenced posts, it hasn’t actually helped you to learn anything.

And this diversion does not actually do anything to distract anyone from your misogynistic posts that show a blatant lack of caring, understanding even or maybe hatred of females. That anyone reading your posts can see for themselves.

Come on now, don’t be silly. Men cannot give birth.

Some of my best friends are massive BLOKEY GEEZERS and they demonstrate their masculinity by having a beer baby or two. It's all the rage down the Nags Head.

In Hearach's world, it is more offensive to admit that someone is female, than it is to systematically deny them healthcare to screen for female cancers! Well, fair enough. It's not like cancer kills people. Oh wait. It does.

I am forced to recollect that this conversation started because Hearach was passionate about excluding trans men from cervical screening.

I begin to feel that Hearach positively desires poor health outcomes for female people, regardless of how they identify.