Tavistock clinic to close as not safe for children

[GettingMarriedAgain]

Breaking news in the Times and Telegraph:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/e1ed2bea-0e63-11ed-93cf-b011fa7fe86b?shareToken=4fa557c3083dee141defde72e0e53d54

This is a total derail, but I don't care!

I am so fed up with NHS middle and senior managers spending their professional life on twitter. I don't get how It is acceptable, to the outside world It seems totally unprofessional.

Also, who are they talking too? Hardly anyone in the real world is on twitter, so it is not awareness raising.

When they are not rabbiting on about issues that actually are not that important to the general public, they are tweeting about the great meetings they attended. That they are going to set the world to rights, or did some great team building or something. Not make a real, measurable and sustained difference to patients lives.

In the real world, I need to wait 4 months for an appointment for a gynaecological issue, my son is half way into a 2 year wait for an ASD assessment and someone in their 90s I know had a fall ,waited 3 hours for an ambulance and another 17 hours in a hospital corridor.

They tweet whilst the NHS burns.

Sorry for the rant...back to the Tavi...who were treating patients just very poorly.

Hillary Cass has suggested a new system of care but does it yet exist? In the meantime will the new centres quickly fill up with the old affirmative care models and less lengthy waiting times? At least the waiting list helped those to desist.

I disagree with activist groups like Mermaids being involved, but I guess this also would also have to extend to people like Transgender Trend who themselves are a lobby group albeit for the opposite view?

I guess I feel a bit cynical that this isn't a bit of lip service until this ideology is safely banished from practice to a niche few that have nothing to do with children.

Stakeholders have raised the need for individuals who are distinct from the
professionals that they view as ‘gatekeeping’ access to the medical treatment to provide support and a safe space for questioning. There is considerable scope for local innovation and partnerships with voluntary sector organisations in developing these services in a range of settings.

This has me worried. It's from the third page of the letter.

I disagree with activist groups like Mermaids being involved, but I guess this also would also have to extend to people like Transgender Trend who themselves are a lobby group albeit for the opposite view?

This is, however, the way that healthcare is going as part of the patient empowerment movement (as I've indicated previously in this or a similar thread).

In some areas, there is still a division between stakeholders who contribute to and comment on a committee/panel's output and decision-making but aren't the decision-makers. Beyond that, there is an increasing push to Managed Access Arrangements and flavours of them where the management and decision-making team is 50-50 stakeholders from the affected condition area and clinicians.

Mermaids and Stonewall have a head start because they have so many sympathisers in place at every level of healthcare. There is no indication that the NHS is moving away from its very visible partiality in this general area.

Such a good piece. Added something new to the debate - various pieces fell into place that hadn't made sense before.

Probably deserves its own thread!

Douglas Murray on Sky News Australia (for some reason!)

@Needmoresleep That talk was very interesting and certainly indicates that even at an adult level this isn't evidence based medicine. Rene still makes a comparison to HRT though, but a female body is designed to react to those hormones even when it has stopped producing them naturally. I worry that cross sex hormones are like putting unleaded in a diesel car. Something is going to break down.

What a wicked thing.
Indeed

Powerful words from Douglas Murray.

It was a wicked thing. It's so sad that this has been so slow in coming and we've all been shamed into being quiet in our outrage.

Notanicepersonality (I am sure it is not true)

You are almost certainly right. Here is another example.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-48102578

My understanding is that there is quite a lot of evidence that additional testosterone can do nasty things to womens bodies.

Buck Angel has tweeted “Because of no trans health studies I almost died! So I am 100 percent on board with creating studies. I dont care what you think! Did you almost die from being an experiment? Then you have no right to argue with me! #facts watch my video” and has a You Tube video outlining their problems with vaginal atrophy and more.

Kathleen Stock's article is brilliant isn't it? As RoyalCorgi said, other bits fall into place when you read it.

Alex Massie in the Times Scotland today from a Scottish perspective:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/57d9ba26-11a7-11ed-b5dc-213f5c972cc4?shareToken=1e7d57a121fa751e877d91efa9f30060

Meanwhile, over in Northern Ireland:

"Sam Blanckensee, Incoming Chair Transgender Equality Network Ireland (TENI), speaking at one of the government's Shared Island events praises the presence of "very young trans people" 7/8 years old at TENI's Pride breakfast event ahead of Dublin Pride."

t.co/1hJuDzujwz

"TENI always has a breakfast the morning of Dublin Pride, and my favourite thing about it is the young people – and when I say young people I mean seven and eight years olds – coming in with their parents, so young, very young trans people...

...who discovered their identity probably during the pandemic, whose parents are maybe struggling, and for the first time they’re meeting friends, they’re making friends with people with a similar identity to them in a similar space"

The video can be found courtesy of Merrion Street News here:

t.co/AW5S4LyLKY

The clip is taken from c. 19:20 to c. 20 mins into the full video.

Sam Blanckensee requests the pronouns he/they and is a "non-binary trans masculine person"

t.co/FBRRdRF1HL

I can't roll my eyes enough.
I would like to laugh but it's not funny really

It has to be faced: the belief of feelings creating reality and facts being irrelevant is a known hallmark in psychology of personality disorder and mental instability and often the end point of significant ego instability and unresolved distress. It is not a positive thing or a healthy thing, or even a workable thing; when analysing relationships gone wrong, if one party is stuck in this way of thinking then the relationship is usually pretty much unsalvageable and the advice to the other party is usually in a nutshell you can't help, you're going to have to walk away.

It also has to be faced: to indulge this 'feelings create reality' belief requires two groups in society: those who get to have their feelings heard and dictate what their personal reality is, and those who get to shut up and provide and care for this special group. It embeds co dependency as something to be strived for.

Superb post - which also has given me insight into an unrelated but intractable situation at work. Thank you @Artichokeleaves

Nadia Whittome MP

While candidates for Prime Minister are discussing what's in people's knickers, trans people are dying waiting for healthcare.

It was my privilege to speak at Notts Pride last week. Our community will never be divided. 🏳️‍🌈 🏳️‍⚧️

t.co/ZYIM36SK3y

Excellent letter to the BPS.

Time for honest reflection, not defence
14 signatories call for ‘recovery and redemption’ around the announcement of a new model and Early Adopter services by NHS England following recommendation from the Cass Review.

This is a sobering moment for psychology. We need to take seriously that damaging practice was enabled for so long. Hundreds of psychologists worked at GIDS – highly trained scientist-practitioners skilled in reflective practice. Hundreds more have watched this unfold from the outside. Why did it take an external review to address the widely aired problems? Why was the service not able to reflect and change itself, instead vilifying critical voices? These are questions that psychologists should be well placed to answer, as experts in human meaning-making, embodied distress and group processes. We know that as a profession we are fallible, because we know that mistakes are made by all humans and all groups – yes, even by ‘me’.

03 August 2022

www.bps.org.uk/psychologist/time-honest-reflection-not-defence?s=09&utm_

That editor's response feels painfully defensive.

Yes, and the "even ME" is downright peculiar.

Psychologists are often bloody weird all over TBH. Have you met many? 😂

Has anyone posted this telegraph article from yesterday yet - hope link will work
digitaleditions.telegraph.co.uk/data/1049/reader/reader.html?social#!preferred/0/package/1049/pub/1049/page/55/article/NaN

Thanks for the link.

That seems to be the tired right-wingers' cry of "lol the left is eating itself" combined with the equally tired right-wingers' cry of "ha you feminists demanded stuff and now it's coming back to bite you", gussied up into an article using a few topical points.

Oh with a side-order of cultural-Marxism-blaming, for that 2020s right-winger flavour.

Wow.
This is big.

And they are right. The psychology profession has totally abdicated responsibility for children in this.

They've either gone along with the ideology forgetting they were psychologists.

Or they've hidden and kept quiet hoping they wouldn't get caught in it.

What a cowardly profession.