Tavistock clinic to close as not safe for children

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Breaking news in the Times and Telegraph:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/e1ed2bea-0e63-11ed-93cf-b011fa7fe86b?shareToken=4fa557c3083dee141defde72e0e53d54

DfE guidance to schools on this issue is very woolly. We record sex for the govt census (3x pa) - M/F. But DfE state that students can be recorded as what gender they wish. School systems until now couldnt cope with this. Our school information system (nationwide) has just introduced pronouns and gender as data fields. I shut it down before the end of term (by hiding all fields). But am already experiencing push back from fellow data managers - calling me cis etc. I'll take that and deal with that. But as a data manager I dont want to record constantly changing data that is not communicated anywhere or useful.

I am not prepared to record data which cannot be evidenced. And also can be subject to multiple change causing me a lot of extra work which I am not paid for. At all. So if you dont have a data manager with integrity at your school or one who can think, you might experience this more and more.

Maya Forstater and Ritchie Herron are being interviewed about the Tavistock GIDs announcement on GBNews with Dan Wootton tonight - around 9:45pm

When is the full Cass report available to read?

This does really demonstrate though that the conversion therapy hope is dead in the water.

MH support is being fully acknowledged as an absolutely crucial part of ethical care in these services, they will be a core requirement. Highly expensive shifts in practice and new centres are being founded on these principles.

There is no way the govt is now going to trot through a bill that throws it all into reverse and prevents this from happening.

Here's another Times article:

Cass report vindicates years of concerns over Tavistock

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/a9c913c4-0e94-11ed-93cf-b011fa7fe86b?shareToken=f6d1e5720299c7603ee154668cd2d29d

Not sure where the report is.

I suspect Mermaids are trying perform a reverse ferret at considerable speed. While the internet has many ill effects, it does provide a way of checking back on previous statements. But wtf will happen to all those kids programmes and cbbc promotions?

Maya being interviewed on GB News now

Would you please tell the Welsh government, which seems to still be committed to affirmation only and a complete ban on what it deems as conversion therapy — which is the kind of talking therapy now being adopted in England.

Telegraph:

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/07/28/long-battle-change-transgender-clinic-shut-not-safe-children/

"The speed with which young people were referred for puberty blockers was raised by Dr David Taylor in a review of the service in 2005, and he raised concerns that there was a lack of robust evidence about their use.
But his recommendation that patients should be monitored after leaving the service never came to fruition.
At the same time lobby groups such as Mermaids and the Gender Identity Research and Education Society (GIRES) were said to be becoming increasingly influential at the clinic."
And

"Whilst the court battles played out in public, parents were at “war” with the clinic behind closed doors and could not speak out for fear of identifying their children.
One parent, who is part of the Bayswater Support Group, a group of 400 parents concerned about treatment, told The Telegraph that after they raised concerns, they were labelled “transphobic” and clinicians refused to talk to them.
Now the NHS seems to have finally admitted that there is no saving the clinic, but many will question why a service under such sustained criticism refused to listen."

I am overjoyed. Well done, absolutely every woman - and man - who've held fast in this fight. Sunlight is pouring in through all the cracks now.

Just spotted this:

I quite agree in terms of the research being done on the treatment meaning that the treatment itself becomes research and therefore questions over the ethics of consent and research participation, but Trans Actual seemed to think - going from their tweet but that might just be my reading of it - that looking at outcomes at all was unethical, even if it’s incidental to the treatment.

Heather Brunskell Evans:

"Michele Moore @ michelemooreEd & I are already onto the Mermaids debacle, Kathleen! [stock] Watch this space!"

They're deluded if they think they're getting anywhere near those clinics.

The cass report was quite clear about the influence of lobbyists. And mermaids brought tremendous pressure to the Tavistock clinic and Polly Carmichael. Wanting cross sex hormones to be given to younger and younger children.

Everyone is going to be spinning this in their favour, in order to try and retain as much influence as they can.

It's soo not going to work. If there's one thing that Hilary Cass will now be fully aware of, it's the malign influence of ideological driven activists.

Also in The Times:

"an institute captured by a pernicious clique of “queer theory” trans activists"

The Times view on the discredited gender identity service for young people: Clinical Damage

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/8c0567ae-0ea6-11ed-a4af-79eb4b98fc31?shareToken=2c3d8af8de3fcdec974ed5d83f98d1fd

I can't quite believe they have the gall to say that having spent years themselves pathologising small children who like the 'wrong' toys, the 'wrong' colours or the 'wrong' clothing and hairstyles.

I don't think I can say what I think of them without being deleted other than they are a huge part of the harm that has been done.

More in the Telegraph. Stonewall speaks:

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/07/28/nhs-faces-crackdown-giving-puberty-blockers-children-tavistock/

"A Stonewall spokesman said: “We are pleased that, on the basis of the interim Cass review, the NHS has acted decisively to address the unacceptable waiting times faced by trans young people in accessing specialist gender identity-related healthcare, by expanding the support it provides.
“The creation of new specialist regional centres in London and Manchester next year, with more to follow, will go some way to addressing the strain experienced by having just a single, centralised service.”
A gender identity development service clinic spokesman said the service appreciated how difficult long waits are for young people seeking treatment, adding that the new measures represented “significant progress in expanding capacity”."

And it seems both Tory leadership candidates are on the same page:

"The NHS could be banned from giving puberty blockerss_ to children amid concerns that youngsters are being “rushed” into changing their gender.
Liz Truss and Rishi Sunak pledged to consider restricting the use of puberty blockers on Thursday night over concerns that “life-altering treatments” are being given to childrenn_ before they are old enough to know whether they want to medically transition.
The Tory leadership contenders told The Telegraph they would act following the announcement that the NHS was shutting down the Tavistock transgender clinicc_ after the Cass Review found it was “not safe” for children."

Lucy Bannerman is another that has stuck her head on the line over this.

I suspect they mean pathologise in the sense of suggesting that a child's thinking is disordered if they are wanting to transition/believe themselves to be the opposite sex from that which they are.

None of them (as far as I am concerned) have anything like a stable, mature ‘identity’, because teenagers don’t have that.

This is all too often missed. I’ve taught literally hundreds of teenagers. None of them have a stable sense of self. Because that is a huge part of puberty and the latter stages of brain development (thought to be up to age 25). The very idea that their sense of identity is stable and secure enough to justify body modification is absolutely shocking. It was shocking when I first came across the idea (around 2017) and remains shocking to me now.

The Mail (long):

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11059641/Courage-parents-patients-whistleblowers-revealed-Tavistock-childrens-clinic-SHUT.html

I think this will be a positive for the kids as they will not need to wait as long for treatment which is where the Tavistock have failed. More treatment centres should mean they can help the kids sooner which has to be a good thing.

I interpret Mermaid's comments about ensuring 'trans kids' aren't pathologised as referring to their view that being trans is simply a normal variation rather than an indication that anything is wrong.
I think they'll maintain the position that mental health issue arise due to societies lack of acceptance of trans identities and that unquestioned access to 'gender affirming' care will eradicate all issues.

Stop trying to spin it. It's not closing because of waiting lists. It's closing because it's 'unsafe for children: