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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Izzard - womanhood not a 'mode'

196 replies

Cookingutensil · 27/07/2022 23:46

That's it. Womanhood is not a 'mode' It's a biological reality - no on and off switch. Nor is it a feeling in a man's head. The sheer arrogance is astonishing.

www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-11053273/Eddie-Izzard-sports-fresh-platinum-blonde-pixie-cut-pink-mini-dress.html

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Zerogravity · 12/08/2022 08:21

beastlyslumber · 12/08/2022 08:11

HER COCK you transphobic bigot!

😂😂😂

Maireas · 12/08/2022 08:22

Buggersticks · 28/07/2022 00:06

I was a big fan, once upon a time....

Yes, me too.

Maireas · 12/08/2022 08:23

georgarina · 28/07/2022 07:26

Imagine if a white actor sometimes dressed up as a stereotypical black person and said they were in 'black mode.' But stayed in 'white mode' when it was convenient.

Can you imagine! It's just crazy

BabcockPeggy · 12/08/2022 08:27

Just heard him on radio 2 talking about his pronouns and how he has girl and boy genetics. Fuck off, you’re a 60 year old man who likes wearing dresses.

IneffableGenderFairy · 12/08/2022 08:27

Did any of you see the documentary he (I think) made about himself a few years back? It was quite sad, as he talked a lot about losing his mum as a child, and boarding school.

However, it was watching that documentary that put me off him. It felt as though he had a bit missing. As though he couldn't relate to other people at all.

Part of the reason I formed that impression was the way he spoke to his assistant. She was clearly very attached to him, and - while he wasn't unkind to her - he seemed very detached. It felt like watching a king with a trusted servant. It made me uncomfortable.

Ladyof2022 · 12/08/2022 08:39

crosstalk · 27/07/2022 23:55

I don't know what I think. He's very funny, has done multiple marathons, done stand up comedy in French and German. If he's a man one day and a woman the next, I couldn't care providing he's not impacting on women. I don't know what his position is on trans activism.

But he's not "a man one day and a woman the next". That is a biological impossibility.

What he's doing is dressing in clothes we in the West in the 2020s associate with women one day, and dressing in clothes we in the West in the 2020s associate with
men the next.

Absolutely NOTHING about his physical body changes when he changes clothes, any more than your body or your brain changes if you put on jeans, a tee shirt and trainers, which are typical male clothing.

blahblahblahspoons · 12/08/2022 08:43

I find Izzard, an entitled, rich middle aged male, calling himself a girl is incredibly offensive and bigoted towards ACTUAL girls who have enough shit to deal with.

It's not surprising so many of them are trying to 'identify' out of girl hood.

When I think what my poor DD has gone through with her periods starting - the pain, inconvenience, difficulty.

Izzard has no fucking clue and it's massively offensive and also offensive is Stephen Fry using 'she' about this deluded male narcissist.

The front page shared with Sarah Everard shows how incredibly offensive this is. Imagine if a white male actor who identified as a young black boy shared the front page with Stephen Lawrence? The id-ing as a younger age is creepy as fuck. I don't call myself a girl as a middle aged Mum, it would be weird, but at least I once was one.

Why do our offended feelings not matter? It's somehow hurtful to misgender a man in a dress, but the blazing misogyny and woman and girl hatred is JUST FUCKING FINE? It's FINE to create this toxic environment for real girls? I am raging.

noraclavicle · 12/08/2022 08:51

IneffableGenderFairy · 12/08/2022 08:27

Did any of you see the documentary he (I think) made about himself a few years back? It was quite sad, as he talked a lot about losing his mum as a child, and boarding school.

However, it was watching that documentary that put me off him. It felt as though he had a bit missing. As though he couldn't relate to other people at all.

Part of the reason I formed that impression was the way he spoke to his assistant. She was clearly very attached to him, and - while he wasn't unkind to her - he seemed very detached. It felt like watching a king with a trusted servant. It made me uncomfortable.

In the same documentary he stated ‘everything I do is trying to bring my mother back.’

It’s as plain as a pikestaff what his motivation is, whether he realises it it not. His cross-dressing is the result of a boy who lost his mother and he’s trying to recreate her. He’s told us so.

It doesn’t mean he has ‘boy girl genetics,’ gets to rewrite biology, or we should refer to him as ‘she.’

FannyCann · 12/08/2022 09:18

This is how we know Eddie isn't a woman. Because he is praised for rocking a dress whilst an actual beautiful woman is criticised for wearing the same dress. HmmSad

Izzard - womanhood not a 'mode'
Maireas · 12/08/2022 09:20

@FannyCann - that's true.
However, he was "brave" to wear it. She's just a woman in her 40s.

BoredofthisCrap7 · 12/08/2022 09:27

BabcockPeggy · 12/08/2022 08:27

Just heard him on radio 2 talking about his pronouns and how he has girl and boy genetics. Fuck off, you’re a 60 year old man who likes wearing dresses.

He's said this several times now.
Why are no articles or presenters calling him out on this total bullshit?

You can't use the word genetics Eddie. Genetics are actual FACTS from the realm of science. That word actually MEANS something already.
As we know, you cannot have "girls and boy" genetics, it's impossible.

And even if you could, yours would be "60 year old male and female" genetics, NOT "girl and boy". Bit weird Eddie.

I would love to see someone calling him out for confusing young people (more) about what it actually is to be "trans", and not insinuate somehow that you are actually crossing a biological line by sticking on a crap dress.

WolverineBluey · 12/08/2022 09:56

In contrast Paul Merton did exactly what is done here and used Eddie's name repeatedly to avoid using a pronoun - 'Eddie was getting Eddie's act noticed' type thing. Private Eye dips its toe in GC waters from time to time and I like to think Paul and Ian Hislop discuss this topic even if it doesn't make it onto HIGNFY.

That's quite telling and good on Merton. The only other option in that sort of situation is to resort to 'they' which equally comes across as a validation of pick-and-mix pronouns (of course there are plenty of occasions where it is a perfectly natural way of referring to a person - but not in these circumstances).

I'm not sure from these comments - is Eddie a full time 'she' now then? This pops up from time to time and Eddie usually says it doesn't matter what people use.

Ladyof2022 · 12/08/2022 10:01

To PP calling EI "middle-aged" : he isn't. He's 60.

IcakethereforeIam · 12/08/2022 10:51

Are...? Does Eddie have breasts now, or are they moobs or....spare socks?

SidewaysOtter · 12/08/2022 12:24

IcakethereforeIam · 12/08/2022 10:51

Are...? Does Eddie have breasts now, or are they moobs or....spare socks?

That was just what I was going to ask - where did the tits come from apart from the one wearing the dress ?

If nothing else it just makes me think of the Blackadder II episode where they all get drunk and wear comedy breasts.

ErrolTheDragon · 12/08/2022 13:49

Ladyof2022 · 12/08/2022 10:01

To PP calling EI "middle-aged" : he isn't. He's 60.

I'd have said 60 was 'middle aged'. It's certainly not young but neither is it old.
What it should be is mature, on available evidence EI seems to be lacking there.

SunThroughTheCloudsAt6am · 12/08/2022 13:58

'But stand-up, activism and endurance running are all girl mode.'

Well, I think I can hazard a guess as to why running is in 'girl mode' - and it's completely the opposite of how any woman would feel about the situation, and just makes me make the 'eeww no' face.

I used to like his standup, but I actually remember when I went off him, and it was in an interview from the US (I think) where he was asked about the dresses (he was in 'boy mode' to break the US I presume) and said they were his because he bought them, but I saw this very calculated, detached persona - like too many other men I've met over the years who you feel are kinda sat back a bit in their head, watching the people around them and often spitefully, but subtly interfering to create drama

Abitofalark · 12/08/2022 14:00

Ladyof2022 · 12/08/2022 10:01

To PP calling EI "middle-aged" : he isn't. He's 60.

He is. 40 - 60 is about middle aged.

xJoyfulCalmWisdomx · 12/08/2022 14:02

beastlyslumber · 12/08/2022 08:11

HER COCK you transphobic bigot!

Indeed! 🤪

savethebeesandthecees · 12/08/2022 14:03

It's about truth.

We'll all know he isn't a woman. Why the need for the collusion?

Wear what you want, Eddie. Explore your feminine side etc.

But leave women's need for validation of our experiences and recognise alone.

Datun · 12/08/2022 14:06

I wouldn't mind so much, if he hadn't already told everybody that he was a transvestite. I mean, I would, but it's even more blatant.

Transvestism has a sexual component, so he is telling everyone that he's getting off on it and the public are unconsenting participants.

xJoyfulCalmWisdomx · 12/08/2022 14:06

Maireas · 12/08/2022 09:20

@FannyCann - that's true.
However, he was "brave" to wear it. She's just a woman in her 40s.

So true.

Minecraftatemychild · 12/08/2022 14:37

Alexaplaykatebush · 28/07/2022 00:27

Why couldn't Eddie continue to be a man who likes wearing dresses sometimes?
There is nothing wrong with a man in a dress, lots of cultures have men in skirt/dress type attire that doesn't make men into women, the beautiful kilt being the perfect example.
I like the dress, it's not something I'd chose to wear personally because of the colour and I'd wear legging or tights under anything that short for modesty even though I'm half Eddie's age and weight.
None of it makes sense to me, how does wearing a dress make you a woman? Is it because it's a pink dress?
The over use of pronouns in the article is quite funny.

Agree. There was such a lost opportunity in all this to rewrite sexist clothing traditions and encourage men to be more colourful and glittery, or wear a skirt if they want cool balls, without feeling that they’re “not a man”

The whole trans activist movement is so so sexist and regressive.

Still, it’ll be over soon. Tavistock closing and being sued, gender critical beliefs protected in law, all major politicians realising no one wants self ID, and even the media coming to terms with the fact that people are bored of being lectured by randoms in drag.

IcakethereforeIam · 12/08/2022 15:07

Bit of a tangent but if Eddie was put forward forward for an honour, would he be knighted or dame'd, or would it depend on the day. Has any transperson been put forward for a gendered honour?

LizzieSiddal · 12/08/2022 16:02

A few months ago I saw EI. He was walking towards me so I couldn't help but see his exceedingly tight pleather leggings (and sky high stilettos) and his bulging cock and balls.

He makes me want to vomit.