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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Izzard - womanhood not a 'mode'

196 replies

Cookingutensil · 27/07/2022 23:46

That's it. Womanhood is not a 'mode' It's a biological reality - no on and off switch. Nor is it a feeling in a man's head. The sheer arrogance is astonishing.

www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-11053273/Eddie-Izzard-sports-fresh-platinum-blonde-pixie-cut-pink-mini-dress.html

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Trinity65 · 28/07/2022 13:04

BreadInCaptivity · 28/07/2022 00:01

FFS he's impacting on women by pretending to be one and diminishes our experiences of womanhood by describing it as a "mode".

Eddie gets to be "a woman" by putting in a dress and lipstick having built his success on male privilege and flip back into man mode when it suits him (most recently for an acting role).

Absolutely THIS
Never seen Him act as a Female, always Male Characters .
Suits Him though, as you said .

As for his acting ability and comedy I do like it . I have to admit I find him funny and also a pretty good actor.

TrashyPanda · 28/07/2022 13:14

Just read about his behaviour to teenage girls - in female toilets.

that is utterly disgusting and totally patronising. He must have got a big kick out of asserting his superiority over two young women like that. And then he basically boasts about it. Male privilege at its best.

so now I cant be bothered to give time of day to a creep like that.

Artichokeleaves · 28/07/2022 13:35

Remember that sketch Izzard used to do about the very fine line between totally cool and looking like a twit?

Line lost.

Datun · 28/07/2022 14:06

Artichokeleaves · 28/07/2022 13:35

Remember that sketch Izzard used to do about the very fine line between totally cool and looking like a twit?

Line lost.

Oh no. That's just too, too much.

However, one brief glance at the transwidows threads, and you know that he has absolutely zero idea what he looks like.

MingeofDeath · 28/07/2022 14:08

Oh piss off with your girlmode

flamingqueen · 28/07/2022 14:53

I used to think he was sexy as fuck when perfectly comfortable being a man in heels and pushing gender boundaries.

Now I just think he's a dick!

Fucking 'girl mode'...just fuck off!

flamingqueen · 28/07/2022 14:54

Artichokeleaves · 28/07/2022 13:35

Remember that sketch Izzard used to do about the very fine line between totally cool and looking like a twit?

Line lost.

😂 although I remember it as being cool or looking like a dickhead

TheOnlyLivingBoyInNewCross · 28/07/2022 15:05

One matchstick - cool: two matchsticks - looking like a dickhead.

I watch this now and I just miss the old funny unique Eddie so much 😢

terryleather · 28/07/2022 15:19

Datun · 28/07/2022 12:34

So I think it's possible to mourn the EI that DID challenge the status quo of male identity expression while still understanding that he misled us all for a very long time.

Yes, for me, the realisation that I was probably being duped, in hindsight, is what pisses me off.

He was, like Grayson Perry, entirely upfront about his cross dressing, but, unbeknownst to me, had already wondered whether he could be a lesbian and availed himself of female facilities to the detriment of young girls.

It's one thing considering cross dressing in isolation, but it's quite another, when you realise it utterly relies on the concept of what constitutes womanhood for it to exist. And then the concept is fetishised.

Not something that would have crossed my mind when I was laughing at Eddie the clever comic wearing nail varnish.

But understanding how these things work and escalate, and the rank sexism involved in underpinning them has changed my mind.

It looked like he was gender nonconforming, but in reality, he was vehemently conforming to male gender stereotypes. Self entitlement, centring his sex drive to the detriment of women and girls, whilst still retaining all the power of a man in show business.

it doesn't get more stereotypically male.

This^^

Once you see it for what it is, you can't unsee and the feeling of being duped is
rage inducing.

SamphirethePogoingStickerist · 28/07/2022 15:54

Yes indeed to that.

TinselAngel · 28/07/2022 16:54

Once you see it for what it is, you can't unsee and the feeling of being duped is
rage inducing

Imagine how if feels if you're married to then.

MsTSwift · 28/07/2022 17:21

Yea honk Pulp have it on this in their Common People song

”Cos everybody hates a tourist
Especially one who thinks it’s all…such a laugh”

MsTSwift · 28/07/2022 17:21

*Yes think

lemmein · 28/07/2022 17:27

Eurgh, I can't stand Eddie Izzard, I genuinely can't understand how he became so massive. There's something very sinister about him, no matter what he's wearing.

Yeah he's done a lot of marathons for charity - hmmm.

goldfinchonthelawn · 28/07/2022 17:29

It looked like he was gender nonconforming, but in reality, he was vehemently conforming to male gender stereotypes. Self entitlement, centring his sex drive to the detriment of women and girls, whilst still retaining all the power of a man in show business.

it doesn't get more stereotypically male.

@Datun - So true I find it hard ti believe he lacks the perception to realise it. Or maybe he does, but doesn't care because it serves him.

TrashyPanda · 28/07/2022 17:35

You assume older people intimidate younger people, but those three thirteen-year-old girls had power over a twenty-three-year-old man

eddie actually seems to believe this.
that three young teens had power over a fully grown adult man.
how utterly pathetic.
making himself out to be the victim because three teens asked what he was doing in the female toilets.
the male privilege runs deep in him.

CanYouNotReadTheSign · 28/07/2022 17:39

SisterRuth · 28/07/2022 00:41

I had so much respect for him when he was a brave man in a skirt, boots & nail varnish. He made me wee with laughter too. Now, I want to slap his smug, deluded face. How can he not see how insulting it is to say he can opt into or out of being a woman?

This ☝

ColeslawSandwich · 28/07/2022 17:47

”superhero “ ODFOD

TheOnlyLivingBoyInNewCross · 28/07/2022 17:52

MsTSwift · 28/07/2022 17:21

Yea honk Pulp have it on this in their Common People song

”Cos everybody hates a tourist
Especially one who thinks it’s all…such a laugh”

That song - Such a good reference for what’s going on.

Zerogravity · 28/07/2022 17:57

Just joining in to say I also find EI a huge disappointment! I would love for him to read these comments and really ask himself what he is doing but I doubt that will ever happen. I used to think he appreciated women. Now we discover he doesn't even recognise we exist.

MangyInseam · 28/07/2022 18:00

I don't find the old days of EI so amazing.

Yes, he wore heels and lipstick. He is a professional performer. They often do things like that, and it's as much about getting attention as it is about "broadening" what it is to be a man.

He's still the same now, the script has changed but it'a about the publicity, and the money, and maybe the thrill of the social accolades. But it was always a bit of a scam.

lovelyweathertoday · 28/07/2022 18:04

Now we discover he doesn't even recognise we exist.

He may pretend we don't exist but he absolutely needs gender conforming women to exist. He needs women to impersonate.

terryleather · 28/07/2022 18:20

TinselAngel · 28/07/2022 16:54

Once you see it for what it is, you can't unsee and the feeling of being duped is
rage inducing

Imagine how if feels if you're married to then.

This is why what you and the other transwidows and their families have to say is so vitally important Tinsel

EsmaCannonball · 28/07/2022 18:45

It's uncomfortable criticising someone's looks and dress sense but it's very telling that the men who envisage themselves as a superficial conception of women almost always envisage themselves as a young, gorgeous, sexy woman. It shows the level of delusion, the sexual motivation and the lack of identification with actual women's inner lives. They can only ever hope to imitate the bits that men get to see.

Belovedfool · 28/07/2022 19:09

I find him funny. I find his belief that he somehow disguises the fact that he's a paunchy, middle aged, rather unattractive man by the simple magic of putting on a ridiculous pink dress absofuckinglutely hilarious. It's the media reaction, the fawning and the ermagawd you are GORgeous crap that I find deeply disturbing.