I am embracing virtue signalling pronouns in emails

[MsFogi]

I have realised I have made too many assumptions about gender over the years. I had always assumed that Paul (name changed of course) in my company was a man simply on the basis of his appearance (well over 6 foot, well built, big beard, low voice that only someone with an Adam's apple and whose balls have dropped could have). Imagine my relief to find that I have not been misgendering him for over a decade because he has helpfully added his pronouns to his email auto signature - they are he/him/his. There is no company diktat to add pronouns on emails so clearly this is important to Paul or maybe he has been misgendered recently.

So, I thought I would ensure that Paul was not offended on a Teams meeting this afternoon and kicked off the meeting by asking everyone to note that Paul's pronouns are he/him/his and that given that he has stated these that everyone please be sensitive to ensuring that they use them. No one said anything so I think they all took it on board, no one misgendered Paul and I like to think that his move to include his pronouns at work has been embraced in my meeting. Maybe as a result others that attended the meeting will add theirs to their auto signatures too.

Hey Aunty F, being a bit harsh on yourself there.

Why these persistent references to my mother ?

She would find the original poster to be as unpleasant and unprofessional as I do, God bless her soul

*deck, although desk seems strangely appropriate for our local key-board freedom fighter

I find the OP's treatment in the original post quite enchanting, and also purposeful!

Quote:

"I have realised I have made too many assumptions about gender over the years. I had always assumed that Paul (name changed of course) in my company was a man simply on the basis of his appearance (well over 6 foot, well built, big beard, low voice that only someone with an Adam's apple and whose balls have dropped could have). Imagine my relief to find that I have not been misgendering him for over a decade because he has helpfully added his pronouns to his email auto signature - they are he/him/his. There is no company diktat to add pronouns on emails so clearly this is important to Paul or maybe he has been misgendered recently.

So, I thought I would ensure that Paul was not offended on a Teams meeting this afternoon and kicked off the meeting by asking everyone to note that Paul's pronouns are he/him/his and that given that he has stated these that everyone please be sensitive to ensuring that they use them. No one said anything so I think they all took it on board, no one misgendered Paul and I like to think that his move to include his pronouns at work has been embraced in my meeting. Maybe as a result others that attended the meeting will add theirs to their auto signatures too..

This is a Classic! Well done, OP, MsFogi! Much appreciated!

And it has obviously sparked debate. Which is so good. The authoritarian "#no debate" was, and is, never a good look.

Any updates on how "Paul (name changed of course)" is now doing on his "he/him/his" pronouns?

That aside:

the posters badgering, pestering, harrassing - a woman's NO is a woman's NO. End of.
Deal with it.

I am a bigot and a troll.

Goodness, such refreshing honesty.

Did he only just realise this?!

At last!! A clear and honest post!

There, he's admitted it. He is a bigot and a troll. In his own words!

To be honest, though: I think we'd spotted this a while ago. Call us uncanny, spidey senses, or whatever. But something about antifascist's posts may have caused some of us (!) to think, hmmm

reported.

Why do you report that? Hurt feelings?

Not enough reason to gag women.

FFS, it's perfectly clear that @antifascist was referring to other posts, not themselves!
Are people not actually reading posts or just think themselves funny twisting and trying to gaslight others or twist it for anyone who can't be arsed to read the whole thread and who just jump in at the end without reading it all?;

Plenty of us here have mothers who have died.

My condolences for your loss.

But it's not even vaguely a sane reason for a man to castigate women in general, and to argue in favour of the oppression of women.

NO.

It looks like the conversation on this thread has long moved on and left me behind, but I just wanted to drop in to say thank you for reading and responding to those cases. As you say, there are many unanswered questions about the experience of the individuals involved, and why they lived as they did. I think my point was just to illustrate, as a number of posters asked, what ‘living as the opposite sex’ meant (in the context of my reference to examples of people throughout history having done so).

And thank you @Didimum for your attempts to bring balance

We have been repeatedly and aggressively told that when people tell us who they are, we have to believe them.

Are you telling us something different now?

Why do you report that? Hurt feelings?
Probably because it's a personal attack and they're against guidelines .
Not to mention pretty shit for posters to keep on with bringing mum's into it when pp has said has died
Reported myself too, WTAF is wrong with this board lately and I don't give a flying shit if I'm not being fucking nice by doing so .
What's that saying on here? Women don't have to be nice.

Antifascist was twisting someone else’s words in the very post you refer to. (It’s their entire MO, calling people fascists who aren’t remotely fascists, for example.) That’s the point! Dole out hyperbole, twisting and gaslighting and you can’t complain if you get it back.

I look forward to you calling out antifascist next time the familiar ridiculous hyperbole and twisting of someone else’s words appears there, Bad Janet.

Thanks @GoodJanetBadJanet for a little dose of humanity

Is it a “little dose of humanity” to call people fascists or bigots, @antifascist …?

If that's behaviour being displayed though, surely it's a case of if the shoe fits in some cases?
(Not aimed at anyone in particular)

Antifascist has referred to themselves as a troll and a bigot. It is probably one of the first honest posts they have posted. I think that antifascist should be commended for finally being upfront and honest.

Probably because it's a personal attack and they're against guidelines .

and antifacist's post aimed at the OP was also a personal attack and against guidelines, you going to report that @GoodJanetBadJanet? After all the guidelines apply to all, or are you trying to justify it with your if the shoe fits comment?

Oh do bore off, there's nothing fascist or remotely bigoted in this board, please feel free to report whenever you see it.

It's all and the key-board freedom fighter here have, isn't it, just slurs and nonsense

FFS, it's perfectly clear that @antifascist was referring to other posts, not themselves!

As they quoted the OP's post in full before the comment then by your deduction they were referring directly to the OP, so personal attack against the Guidelines, you going to do the fair and decent thing and report @GoodJanetBadJanet ?