Sex Education safeguarding horrors reported in the Times today (SSA quoted)

[2fallsfromSSA]

This is mostly about Sex Education but there is so much crossover with teaching about gender.

Links:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/35cd493a-fee1-11ec-88db-ae1b6b9bdd3e?shareToken=5727832e05f12b11a3f5f013a0a493ac

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10996893/Children-told-prostitution-rewarding-job-sex-education-providers-promote-kinks.html?fbclid=IwAR0KCS_n_-9Jr_NXsURgRz6qPbdtGktT0Wfw_O3C3kpgZeXHl5FL5WsokB4

twitter.com/SafeSchools_UK/status/1545665347730145280?s=20&t=A7LxK6jkwjG9AECtpMXC0A

Lots of examples from BISH which is run by Justin Hancock, includes material on kinks and fetishes ("n a post about “kink”, Bish links to a blog that provides a list of sexual activities including using manacles and irons, whips, swinging and beating) advice to a 14 year old having sex with her boyfriend that "she probably won't get pregnant using the withdrawal method". He failed to mention the relationship was illegal and also suggested lots of lube for anal sex.

Justin charges schools between £500-£600 a day to deliver this so called sex education.

Other examples covered in the story include materials from the Proud Trust advising parents to make play doh models with their children to demonstrate masturbation.

There needs to be a serious overhaul and careful regulation of Sex Education.

Well when you have called everyone a homophobe for objecting to a staff member posting how he wears rubber fetish gear to work akd filming himself in the staff toilets, you kinda can't object to this can you

He eventually ended up in a prison of like minded individuals! Which is a sad fact in itself that there are so many of them.

But on the plus side he did die a painful death of lung cancer in hospital handcuffed to a prison guard, because even as he lay dying he was deemed a flight risk!

When he died he had to be buried by the prison service as his ex partner on being informed of his death gave no fucks and put the phone down!

Steven Rushworth will forever be known as a child rapist who died in prison having lost his reputation and his family. I will admit I find joy in that!

I'll say it again

These people should be in prison!

And yes I know his name is in this post. He's dead, what's he going to do sue me?

Because they have been captured by people who have no understanding or safeguarding (sone people would say there are those who wish to override it).

What makes people think there is any safeguarding in schools these days?

Oh beetle! 🐱🍰

IcakethereforeIam · Today 10:56
If anyone hasn't already, look up and sign the petition about this on the MN petition page. It's a shame it wasn't mentioned in the Times article. Have they allowed comments?

Please would you post a link to the petitions page?

Its extremely concerning that individuals and organisations that are mandated reporters & have statutory powers are involved in this. There really needs to be an inquiry.

The petition is also on Twitter

Boiledbeetle· Today 13:01

Thank you very much for sharing the details of your case. I am so sorry for what happened to you; and to all the others like you who may be reading this.

What are people supposed to do? Take their children out of schools and form private groups?

This must be about power for these so called educators. They are actually sexual perverts getting a power thrill from managing to groom children through their officially endorsed and promoted channels.

Don’t vote for any government who does not have a manifesto to stop this.

And no, that should not mean aligning with a right wing that wants to remove women’s rights, see children starve or the planet to burn.

As soon as i posted about needing a purring cat the neighbours cat wandered into the room.

A bliss state had been resumed! Cats are miracle workers! Now I'm off to put those flippers in a bad and make a cup of tea to go with that cake.

Kisses.

Flippers in a bad? Flowers in a vase!

@ScrollingLeaves "what are people supposed to do? Take their children out of schools and form private groups?"

Honestly if i had kids in school that are about to have sex education lessons off one of the more concerning providers I think I would premptively report the school and the provider to the police for grooming!

@ScrollingLeaves I should have thought of that! I don't think I've ever tried to post a link from within MN, wish me luck...here goes...oh great and powerful link Gods, show me, your humble supplicant, mercy....

www.mumsnet.com/talk/petitions_noticeboard/4585082-rse-content-on-gender-vs-sex

@Boiledbeetle cats always know when they're needed, though sometimes they can be real arseholes about it!

@Boiledbeetle I think you are amazing.

Also your typo made me smile and I'm glad a cat came to give you some love ❤

What does this refer to?

I can't find many of the thread that were around on the time but there's this;
www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/3714849-Sacked-by-the-NSPCC-on-12th-August?page=1

@2fallsfromSSA thank you for posting the link to the times piece. Sorry for kind of hijacking your thread, but I feel that it is very easy sometimes for people to read articles like the one you linked to and think that well its not that bad.

To those reading if you are a person who is lucky enough to be able to assume that people on the whole have good intentions and you have never
had to assume the worst about people then you don't necessarily see how awful this is.

That even with only good intent from the involved parties??!!?? (Can you tell i just don't believe that!) They are inadvertently setting these children up to have really skewed boundaries on what is OK and what is not from an adult, thereby making the job of any would be abuser 99% easier!

I want people to see that what these people are doing is no different from what my abuser did. And he went to prison. These people should as well.

I want the people at schools who are contracting these companies to see that they the school are complicit in the fact that what these people are doing is no different from what my abuser did. And he went to prison. These people should as well.

I want these companies to see that they are acting as lecherous creeps and that what they are doing is no different from what my abuser did. And he went to prison. These people should as well.

And i currently have three, yes three cats providing purr therapy. I'm in my happy place. 🐱🐱🐱

@IcakethereforeIam thanks, I didn't know MN had its own petition page, I'll take a look.
This is an outrage.

I want my children to know that a small number of people are drawn to sexual practices that involve dressing up, hurting or humiliating yourself or others. The most important thing, as with any sexual activity is consent, safety and respect for yourself and others. There is no need for adults to talk to children and young people about specific practices, how disgusting.

Why isn't the NSPCC all over this? -

because they are complicit. See what happened to James Esses or their kinky gimp employee - www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/nspcc-charity-worker-probed-over-16783503. When that story broke - they called us all nasty transphobic bigots .......

This whole gender shit is about the removal of boundaries and to discredit women and mothers who try to stand up against it.

@Boiledbeetle💐

I do think those of us who have experienced CSA are particularly attuned to the dangers inherent in the blurring and pushing of boundaries. It makes my blood boil. Not least because of the useful idiots -many professionally trained to safeguard children - enabling it.

Please would someone give me key words for the petition as I cant’t find it.

Sorry I don't know how to link to another thread on my phone but there's a link to it further down this thread. Should also be at the top of the petitions and activism section...

@scrollingleaves

RSE content on gender vs sex - www.mumsnet.com/talk/petitions_noticeboard/4585082-rse-content-on-gender-vs-sex