WHO - "sex is not limited to male and female".

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Point no 3.

Can't wait to find out what the other sexes are. Oddly, they don't appear to name them.

(And do they mean 'going beyond non-binary'? Surely it should say going beyond the binary?)

Whatever, we still have a huge uphill battle.

www.who.int/news/item/06-07-2022-who-updates-widely-used-gender-mainstreaming-manual

FFS.

WTF
Then tell us WHO tell us the others I'll wait
lol I'm so tired

I’m so sick of this shit.

I’m going to sit over here with Pink85, waiting to be enlightened by the WHO.

It is though.

They encourage people to comment!

Evelyn Boy-Mena (WHO) [email protected];
Claudia Marques de Abreu Lopes (UNU-IIGH) [email protected]

Might also be a good idea to send this to Emma Hilton and others who have expertise in the field.

If WHO doesn't have a clear concept of what sex is, then what's the point of it commenting on the issue? What can it possibly contribute?

The WHO and the UN have succumbed to lobby groups and have lost all credibility.

Just the fact that the UN and WHO even entertain the fantasy notion of "gender identity" as some kind of reality is enough to discredit them.

Neither can define so-called "gender identity" beyond how someone "feels". There is no material, measurable evidence-base.

Biological sex isn’t limited to male or female. There are a very small proportion of people who are neither on a genetic level. Gender is a different debate. At least get that bit right before you start giving out.

What are the other sexes called then?

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Biological sex is absolutely limited to male or female that is how we reproduce. A very small number of people have a disorder of sexual development (DSD) that means genetic testing is required to identify their sex, as it is not immediately obvious from their secondary sexual characteristics.

‘Biological sex isn’t limited to male or female. There are a very small proportion of people who are neither on a genetic level.’

What is their sex?

People with DSDs are still male or female, so I am really hoping WHO are not insulting them by saying they are some obscure 3rd sex.

Can I offer "fale" and "memale" as 2 of the alternative sexes?

What a load of bollocks. The WHO should ask someone sensible, eg Kathleen Stock, to write this shit for them

I have no words. Other than FFS. 😡😫

Well if they don’t have XY or XX chromosomes they are neither male nor female in terms of their sex. But they probably will have a gender.

This is different to (for example) someone with XX chromosomes who thinks their gender is male. That is a different debate.

You risk undermining your point if you are mixing up gender and sex when there are some people with biological differences which means they are neither sex

Am e-mailing Sex Matters now.

When DH and I went for ivf, we needed to be a male/female couple, and if we hadn’t been, we’d have needed the other sex as a donor/surrogate to have been able to have the treatment, how do they explain that I wonder if there aren’t two sexes?

Rocking up at an ivf clinic feeling like a gender wouldn’t get anyone anywhere would it?

Oh for fuck's sake. To pluck a few obvious examples, people with XO chromosomes are female, and those with XXY are male. People with DSDs are indeed male or female. To suggest otherwise is highly othering, and not remotely inclusive.

As I have said. People with DSD, the people you are referencing are male or female. You’re being very insulting to them.

No

A male can have a chromosomal abnormality, and a female can have a chromosomal abnormality. They are both still male
or female.

Oh sorry. I’m genuinely really sorry if I have upset you. I got it wrong. Apologies.

But they probably will have a gender

What if a gender critical person has a chromosomal DSD?
GC people tend not to believe in "having a gender".
Do chromosomes influence one's beliefs?! Huge scientific breakthrough there!

Oh ok.
I'm sorry for taking the piss a bit above there...

Yes they do. If you have XY chromosomes you believe you’re gods gift to humanity and those with XX chromosomes are not.