WHO - "sex is not limited to male and female".

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Point no 3.

Can't wait to find out what the other sexes are. Oddly, they don't appear to name them.

(And do they mean 'going beyond non-binary'? Surely it should say going beyond the binary?)

Whatever, we still have a huge uphill battle.

www.who.int/news/item/06-07-2022-who-updates-widely-used-gender-mainstreaming-manual

@BananaPie Still only two sexes, differences in chromosones are still biologically male or female
Sex Abnormalities

There are several syndromes that create sex differentiation abnormalities. Females with only one X chromosome have Turner syndrome, and if the girl survives birth, she will experience abnormal growth and be very small, with extra folds of skin on the neck. Triple X syndrome occurs in females with an additional X chromosome. These are known as super females and tend to be similar to females with two X chromosomes. Men who are born with two X chromosomes and a Y chromosome have Klinefelter syndrome. These men tend to be very feminine and can even have high-pitched voices. XYY syndrome occurs when men have an extra Y chromosome. These are known as super males and tend to produce much more testosterone than typical males.

FFS. This is meant to be the authority on health for the entire planet. As a healthcare worker, I'm bound by their guidelines in every single day of my working life. Throughout the pandemic, I trusted their advice over others, and now this would love to hear from them about what other sexes there are.
It's weird because, at my hospital anyway, there is only one type of person who gets prostate cancer and there is only one type of person who gets a c-section. There is no crossover.

WHO has been like that for a long time.

Calling VAWG a public health emergency on the one hand and denying the material reality of sex in other arenas.

Same as other organisations that call for birth certificates as a human rights issue to make it harder to practice the infanticide of newborn girls or to marry off under-age girls or withhold education from them—yet the same organisations want records of birth to be subject to revision.

It's painful, there many global organisations espouse human rights but are willing to set aside women's rights when it suits current rhetoric.

Perhaps they thought this was real science.

Do you have a Y chromasome? Yes? You are male. Did you develop the unambiguous primary sec characteristics of a male? Yes? You are male. NO? You are a male with a congenital difference of sex development.

Do you lack a Y chromosome? Yes?You are a female. Did you develop the unambiguous primary sex characteristics of a female?
Yes? You are a female. No? You are a female with a congenital difference of sex development.

On a genetic level.
On a sex level

Everything else is social conditioning.

It makes NO difference what your Karyotype is. All karyotypes are either male or female karyotypes. They are all known and very well researced

That said, if you have a complete androgen insensitivity/ swyers I think you are female in EVERY way that counts ( except sport, where you are still likely to be overrepresented)

However DsDs do NOT = gender identity,so it is a mute point.

I said sorry. Apologies again.

I think people are more ranting at WHO, not you. They should know better ffs.

Even SRY gene translocation doesn't help the argument. It is STILL not gender identity.

Females are not necessarily feminine, nor do they necessarily feel feminine, they just have no Y chromasome and a vagina.

On an individual level it really is that simple.

I don't need protection from males on an individual level. My sex class needs protection from the male sex class on a population level.

Oh. Wow :) How refreshing. That almost never happens( like DSDs ) ... Sorry couldn't help it. Kudos!

@BananaPie "Biological sex isn’t limited to male or female."

Yes, it is. There are only two gametes in human physiological development: ovum and sperm.

Female bodies develop to supply the large gamete: ovum; male bodies develop to supply the small gamete: sperm.

In all living species that rely on sexual reproduction for their perpetuation, ie: some plants, animals and all mammals, the female is always the life form that supplies the large gamete, the male is always the life form that supplies the small gamete.

Exactly.

Came to hear about how badly WHO has lost the plot, came to say brava to Banana for listening to what PPs said about DSDs. Kudos to you Banana, truly, a wonderful thing to see

If you want to know more I can recommend the writings of Dr Emma Hilton aka FondOfBeetles on twitter

Please read the thread: Banana Pie has apologised, so can we leave it? I know that hardly ever happens and so we're all a bit 😕 (it says that's a puzzled face - really?)

You've got me thinking of banofee pie now. Gah!

I lost any faith in WHO when they baldly stated that everyone has a gender identity.

Well done Banana Pie!

I don't know how people with dsds stand this rhetoric. I know a little girl with Turners. Her grandparents and parents would be outraged to be told she is some "third sex". She is a little girl with some medical issues.

So, bit confused here, so bear with me.

Is the World Health Organisation actually saying that, "sex is not limited to male and female",?

Because is so, the World Health Organisation is wrong. Which is worrying,

In actual fact and in real life, only women can conceive and give birth. Men are physiologically unable ever to give birth, doesn't matter what their gender identity or zodiac star sign. Men are not women.

The formerly respected World Health Organisation is now trans captured, when it spouts such bollocks.

It's amazing what an organization will say if their funding is under existential threat: 'The U.S. has historically been one of the largest funders of WHO, providing between $200 million and $600 million annually over the last decade. In 2020, the Trump administration suspended financial support and initiated a process to withdraw the U.S. from membership in the organization, but President Biden reversed that decision upon taking office in January 2021 and restored U.S. funding to WHO.'

Sorry, source for above: www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/fact-sheet/the-u-s-government-and-the-world-health-organization/

Some people are born ''intersex''. That term is used to cover a wide range of natural variations that affect genitals, gonads, hormones, chromosomes or reproductive organs. The word “intersex” relates to physical sexual characteristics.

This is just a scientific fact.

Nothing to do whatsoever with the transgender debate/gender identity...

People with Disorders of Sexual Development (DSDs) do not like the term “intersex”, as it suggests that they are neither male or female, but between the 2. They are either a) male or b) female - as revealed by their DNA.

Biological sex is absolutely limited to male or female that is how we reproduce. A very small number of people have a disorder of sexual development (DSD) that means genetic testing is required to identify their sex, as it is not immediately obvious from their secondary sexual characteristics.

Thanks @EthelbertaChickerel for this clear and succinct explanation.Very,very helpful.

@BananaPie You have my total respect.

Hi @BananaPie my post comes after your apology, but when I posted it for some reason the previous posts hadn't refreshed. I wouldn't have posted if I'd seen your apology - sorry.

If we cannot trust them on this, pretty basic fundamental scientific fact, what is the point of them existing?

Thank you @Baaaaaa for putting it so clearly and succinctly, wish there was a like button on here!

WHO has history here. I believe, but please correct me if I'm wrong, that WHO took gender dysphoria out of their mental/psyschological conditions category. Even Blair White, the most transy person imaginable, says it is is a mental condition.

I have done work for WHO in the past and they do have these off piste moments.