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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Let’s hope Mordaunts not the next PM

157 replies

LarryBlackmonsCodpiece · 08/07/2022 01:00

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LizzieSiddal · 08/07/2022 16:43

Surely the MPs who get to vote first, will be a bit more sensible than to vote for someone who believes TWAW?

achillestoes · 08/07/2022 17:02

‘To be honest, I'd tolerate him as Prime Minister if only because it keeps him one step away from controlling a department.’

LOL.

ScribblingPixie · 08/07/2022 17:28

In the same article, "Kemi Badenoch, who is considering a tilt at the top job, resigned as equalities minister on Wednesday." I hope she has a bash at it.

achillestoes · 08/07/2022 17:30

She should. She’s very good.

ChristinaXYZ · 08/07/2022 17:33

@achillestoes Guido has a spreadsheet

docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ffqemZ-YOi7AvAw8HbxmMd0vIbsOXLZ7KpAmNQPD2r8/edit#gid=0

achillestoes · 08/07/2022 17:35

And although it doesn’t matter what racial background the next PM comes from, I would think their being a black woman would be inspirational to young people from minority ethnic groups. It would be wonderful for them to be able to see themselves represented in the highest office in the land, and by such a brilliant and brave woman.

achillestoes · 08/07/2022 17:39

Plus, then Starmer could test himself against one of the brightest and best women in the country. He’ll like that.

Tallisker · 08/07/2022 17:47

Thank goodness, can you imagine Boris in Speedos?

I'd really rather not, if it's all the same to you Grin

ChristinaXYZ · 08/07/2022 18:49

Sex Matters have a useful summary of all the likely candidates and their position on sex/gender

sex-matters.org/posts/updates/will-the-next-tory-leader-respectmysex/

InTheCanteen · 08/07/2022 23:15

Kemi Badenoch running

twitter.com/cforwomenuk/status/1545527495574921216?s=21&t=pVFkUYmqBXL35VCozTZKVg

SwissBall · 08/07/2022 23:30

I saw on Twitter PM’s brother used to go out with the man who has problems with ribbons, is that right?

LarryBlackmonsCodpiece · 09/07/2022 00:18

SwissBall · 08/07/2022 23:30

I saw on Twitter PM’s brother used to go out with the man who has problems with ribbons, is that right?

Just used google & saw an image tweet of him saying he was nearly engaged to her twin brother.

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LarryBlackmonsCodpiece · 09/07/2022 00:21

Sorry was engaged, PM was nearly his sister in law.

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LarryBlackmonsCodpiece · 09/07/2022 00:22

InTheCanteen · 08/07/2022 23:15

Excellent news!

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achillestoes · 09/07/2022 12:35

Ben Wallace isn’t standing.

MarshaBradyo · 09/07/2022 12:38

achillestoes · 09/07/2022 12:35

Ben Wallace isn’t standing.

Oh what a shame

At least Mordaunt has been pushed off top bookie spot by Sunak

Although Wallace was second

HPFA · 09/07/2022 12:45

For those wondering why she's expected to do well in the contest - a part of the Tory party thinks that she can combine Brexiteerism with being "socially liberal" - thus preserving Boris's supposed electoral coalition and preventing the loss of seats to the LibDems in the Blue Wall.

FWIW I don't think this will actually work.

But it kind of sums up my frustration with the endless debates about "who to vote for". There isn't ANY party that doesn't regard this issue as purely transactional - any of them will change their stance in a heartbeat if they think it will be to their electoral advantage.

We should support those groups working for change within parties but the main focus of activism shouldn't be here.

achillestoes · 09/07/2022 12:47

I don’t think it will work either. Johnson’s reluctance to really grapple with wokery was one of the things that brought him down.

Lesserspottedmama · 09/07/2022 12:53

Horrified to see her stance on women as I felt quite positive towards her before seeing this. Just awful.

Hearach15 · 09/07/2022 18:27

Whatwouldscullydo · 08/07/2022 08:41

So sick of these women who themselves must have overcome so many barriers to enter politics and know themselves how they have to work twice as hard and be twice as good to be considered even half as competent as their male counterparts and theb they spout crap like this. Its so fucking dishonest. And one day she will wake up and discover that all the women in the room are male. Women who wont have babies or need somewhere to pump, or work whilst going through menopause and all that brings.

She is nothing more than a turkey voting for Christmas. These women are their own worst enemies. Only where they are because of all the brave women who fought so hard befire her.

Anyone who believes twaw should be made to hand over their bank card, be unable to vote, own property or be employed. Maybe then they will realise that its not and will ever be the same. That her rights are only there fir as long as men allow her to have them.

Shes clearly far to stupid to realise shes the sacrificial lamb and there will be another man quick to jump in the second she loses all credibility with stunts like this.

"Anyone who believes twaw should be made to hand over their bank card, be unable to vote, own property or be employed."

This is genuinely unhinged and I would urge you to seek help.

Whatwouldscullydo · 09/07/2022 18:43

Why? Do you think they are worrying about identities in countries where women are jailed for having a miscarriage. Or dying if exposure in menstrual huts. Or dying because they have no male guardian to approve medical treatment.

This is all a first world problem. You do realise that transwomen are allowed to remain in the masons after transition. But transmen can't inherit titles..

Sexism continues to exist even when we pretend humans can change sex or that gender trumps sex. Funny that hey

TooBigForMyBoots · 09/07/2022 19:10

Lesserspottedmama · 09/07/2022 12:53

Horrified to see her stance on women as I felt quite positive towards her before seeing this. Just awful.

Penny Mordaunt bears a huge amount of responsibility for Self ID from way back in Theresa May's government. Her TWAW views are, or should be, very well known.

Hearach15 · 09/07/2022 19:40

TooBigForMyBoots · 09/07/2022 19:10

Penny Mordaunt bears a huge amount of responsibility for Self ID from way back in Theresa May's government. Her TWAW views are, or should be, very well known.

I really hope she wins then!

abc5432 · 09/07/2022 19:42

Whatwouldscullydo · 08/07/2022 08:41

So sick of these women who themselves must have overcome so many barriers to enter politics and know themselves how they have to work twice as hard and be twice as good to be considered even half as competent as their male counterparts and theb they spout crap like this. Its so fucking dishonest. And one day she will wake up and discover that all the women in the room are male. Women who wont have babies or need somewhere to pump, or work whilst going through menopause and all that brings.

She is nothing more than a turkey voting for Christmas. These women are their own worst enemies. Only where they are because of all the brave women who fought so hard befire her.

Anyone who believes twaw should be made to hand over their bank card, be unable to vote, own property or be employed. Maybe then they will realise that its not and will ever be the same. That her rights are only there fir as long as men allow her to have them.

Shes clearly far to stupid to realise shes the sacrificial lamb and there will be another man quick to jump in the second she loses all credibility with stunts like this.

Quite I couldn't agree more. Labour/LibDem/SNP parties have more of these idiotic women than the Tories though. At least the Tories don't have Groupthink as an actual policy.

TooBigForMyBoots · 09/07/2022 20:27

She was on Mnet a few years ago. It did not go well.🙈
www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/voices/penny-mourdant-mumsnet-gender-recognition-act-a8835621.html%3famp

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