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Forstater judgment tomorrow

721 replies

achillestoes · 05/07/2022 19:06

In case we hadn’t had enough drama.

Good luck, Maya.

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Steppedonalego · 06/07/2022 11:36

This is wonderful, Maya you are such a star.

SpottyBumPony · 06/07/2022 11:36

Congratulations Maya, you must be over the moon x

rogdmum · 06/07/2022 11:36

Fabulous news!

LaughingPriest · 06/07/2022 11:37

Excellent! Need some time to read the judgement properly. Sounds like there's some valuable stuff in there.

theclangers that makes sense, thanks!

dolorsit · 06/07/2022 11:38

I've just sneakingly logged in during a meeting- really glad that I'm muted with my screen off!

SameSkyDifferentPlanet · 06/07/2022 11:38

What an amazing woman. She must have an extraordinary amount of courage to get through this. Maya, you are an example to us all.

I have been meaning to join Sex Matters and my small contribution to the cause will be to do that today, in response to this judgement and your complete awesomeness!

BudgetTarzan · 06/07/2022 11:39

Oh that is brilliant news.

NotTerfNorCis · 06/07/2022 11:39

This is great news! Cheered me up today. :)

Helleofabore · 06/07/2022 11:39

Iknowitisheresomewhere · 06/07/2022 11:20

286.1 At pages 921 and 1034, where Ms Fortstater asserted that “other
people are not compelled to accept it [the proposition that a
transwoman is a woman] as relating to any material reality” and that
“ a man’s internal feeling that he is a woman has no basis in material
reality”. The Tribunal considered it to be clear that individuals might
be offended by these statements. They are, however,
straightforward statements of Ms Forstater’s (protected) gender
critical belief. The Tribunal considered that to characterise these as
manifestations of the belief to which objection could reasonably be
taken would be to hold that the belief itself was not worthy of
protection, when the Employment Appeal Tribunal has decided that
this is not the case.
286.2 At pages 915 and 932, where Ms Forstater drew a comparison
between transwomen and Rachel Dolezal. The Tribunal did not
consider it necessary or appropriate to embark on any analysis of
Rachel Dolezal’s situation. We found, however, that the point that
Ms Forstater was making – that there is an analogy to be drawn
between someone who is white identifying as black and someone
who is (according to gender critical belief) male identifying as a
woman – did little more than assert her gender critical belief.

These are excellent paragraphs.

They are indeed.

BitterAndOnlySlightlyTwisted · 06/07/2022 11:40

Oh happy, happy day!

I’ve had a little sob. Such a relief.

PaleBlueMoonlight · 06/07/2022 11:40

This is amazing. I wonder if her employer will appeal?

SquirrelSoShiny · 06/07/2022 11:40

Maya you are amazing and have done so much to protect women Flowers Thank you for what you've done.

Redshoeblueshoe · 06/07/2022 11:41

Congratulations Maya - ❤🍾🍾🍾

yourhairiswinterfire · 06/07/2022 11:41

Saw they dismissed those stupid ramblings about the Fair Play for Women video, they said it was a normal campaign video, and nothing wrong with the colours red and black Grin I remembered that from the case as being a particularly bonkers scrape of the barrel, so glad the tribunal were having none of it!

The 'red evil hand of a transwoman'

🤣

SirSamVimesCityWatch · 06/07/2022 11:41

Yes!!!

Well done and huge congratulations, Maya. You have accomplished so much with this.

Really hope you have an enormous bottle of fizz handy. 🍾

ickky · 06/07/2022 11:42

What a relief for Maya. Congratulations

LaughingPriest · 06/07/2022 11:43

Forgotten about the red/black "Nazi" nonsense. Absolute desperation.

Coyoacan · 06/07/2022 11:43

Such good news. Many thanks to Maya and all her supporters

334bu · 06/07/2022 11:43

Brava!!

SidewaysOtter · 06/07/2022 11:44

Do we think CGD will appeal?

LipbalmOrKnickers · 06/07/2022 11:44

Congratulations Maya! Wonderful, wonderful news!

FigRollsAlly · 06/07/2022 11:45

Congratulations to Maya and her fantastic team! Only skimmed 40 pages of the document so far but interesting to note the panel were unanimous in their findings about the tweets, except for one.

WorkingItOutAsIGo · 06/07/2022 11:45

Maya - you are a lioness! Hugely well done and thank you. Since I don’t know you to buy you a large bottle of champagne I will make an extra donation to Sex Matters instead. Wonderful!! Am smiling today!!

Circumferences · 06/07/2022 11:47

CGD has until 17 August 2022 to apply to the Employment Appeal Tribunal for permission to appeal this judgment.

This is giving me chills. I wouldn't be surprised to hear they're appealing....

VaggieMight · 06/07/2022 11:48

Congratulations Maya! You're amazing!