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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Amy Hamm - Canadian Nurse being disciplined for being GC

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IcakethereforeIam · 05/07/2022 12:57

I've not seen a thread on Amy on MN and the search didn't show up anything. She seems to be being put through the wringer by tras and by her nursing college.

I thought if she saw this thread it might be cheering Flowers, she's on twitter. I found her thanks to Bette.

quillette.com/2022/04/08/im-being-investigated-by-the-british-columbia-college-of-nurses-because-i-believe-biological-sex-is-real/

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chilling19 · 02/11/2023 19:27

CyberCritical · 02/11/2023 19:20

I feel like she's just wasting time in general. Asking really long, convoluted and irrelevant questions to run down the clock and prevent Amy from ever actually speaking or getting through this witch trial.

Or this.

Who the fuck knows 😩

Signalbox · 02/11/2023 19:32

If so, is she trying to enshrine in law that no one can be GC because this would cause minority stress?

Possibly. Also I’m assuming they haven’t had the equivalent case law of Forstater in Canada. So perhaps their position is that the GC position isn’t WORIADS (or whatever the equivalent would be in Canada.) Or perhaps they are arguing that the GC position is harmful and not covered by free speech.

Impossiblenurse · 02/11/2023 19:57

I've just logged into webbex/hearing and it's silent but I can see panel etc are logged in...are they on break? or has my sound gone again?

chilling19 · 02/11/2023 20:05

Just back

chilling19 · 02/11/2023 20:07

signal 'Also I’m assuming they haven’t had the equivalent case law of Forstater in Canada'.

Yes, and it shows. I think this might be the Canadian Forstater.

chilling19 · 02/11/2023 20:10

Cantor - you have used age as a throw away 'factoid' 😂

chilling19 · 02/11/2023 20:14

It is good that Cantor consistently bringing it back to concrete baseline variables - i.e age, birth sex, etc., in order to treat patients appropriately.

chilling19 · 02/11/2023 20:35

BF - how can she divide prepubescent children with tanner stage 2?

Cantor - I don't think you understand that they are the same thing? (Paraphrased),

chilling19 · 02/11/2023 20:37

BF - retreats as she has no idea what she is talking about.

Signalbox · 02/11/2023 20:39

chilling19 · 02/11/2023 20:37

BF - retreats as she has no idea what she is talking about.

bf so confused 😂

chilling19 · 02/11/2023 20:41

Signal - she is just throwing shade. Or us coming a cropper because she believes the bullshit.

chilling19 · 02/11/2023 20:42

BF - give it up love. This is painful.

chilling19 · 02/11/2023 20:43

BF - still trying to discredit Cantor, instead of putting forward a case.

pombear · 02/11/2023 20:45

BF is, from what I can see, tilting at windmills.

Whether the panel see that is to be seen.

Kudos to Amy, who is sitting there sipping from various mugs - I have no idea how she's able to listen to this stuff and still look so calm.

Signalbox · 02/11/2023 20:46

chilling19 · 02/11/2023 20:41

Signal - she is just throwing shade. Or us coming a cropper because she believes the bullshit.

I'm going with she believes the bullshit.

I am assuming she's an activist.
Aside from the blue hair and the she/her pronouns she seems very invested.

chilling19 · 02/11/2023 20:47

pombear · 02/11/2023 20:45

BF is, from what I can see, tilting at windmills.

Whether the panel see that is to be seen.

Kudos to Amy, who is sitting there sipping from various mugs - I have no idea how she's able to listen to this stuff and still look so calm.

I would be swigging the booze from the mug.

chilling19 · 02/11/2023 20:48

Also, what has all this to do with Amy's utterances? As Cantor has been accepted as an expert,?

pombear · 02/11/2023 20:48

chilling19 · 02/11/2023 20:47

I would be swigging the booze from the mug.

Agree. Though really feel for her as this is her career and her life - and she's having to watch this shitshow.

Signalbox · 02/11/2023 20:50

Just googled her...

findlay lives with her partner, Sheila Gilhooly, in British Columbia. She describes herself as "a white, cisgender, lesbian, activist lawyer with physical disabilities".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_findlay

barbara findlay - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_findlay

pombear · 02/11/2023 20:50

chilling19 · 02/11/2023 20:48

Also, what has all this to do with Amy's utterances? As Cantor has been accepted as an expert,?

It does feel a very different test of law in Canada - this seems a long-drawn out test of Cantor, not the core of Amy's case. Not sure if there are any Canadian law experts here who could explain what's going on?

chilling19 · 02/11/2023 20:52

Pombear - yes it does. Which is weird (to us in the uk].

Signalbox · 02/11/2023 20:55

pombear · 02/11/2023 20:50

It does feel a very different test of law in Canada - this seems a long-drawn out test of Cantor, not the core of Amy's case. Not sure if there are any Canadian law experts here who could explain what's going on?

This feels more like the Helen Webberley case where you can understand the need for the clinical / psychological experts. It's hard to fathom what all of this has to do with Amy when there are no criticisms at all of her clinical competence. It's utterly bizarre.

chilling19 · 02/11/2023 21:07

Cantor is earning his money here.

chilling19 · 02/11/2023 21:09

Bastow - let her have enough rope, then power in.

Impossiblenurse · 02/11/2023 21:35

Crikey. Be interested to hear BF summary of what she thinks she achieved in her cross examination. Agree with PP, there is a strong whiff of attempting to discredit JC.

I think he threw in 'correlational matrices' just to make it stop.... and it did...thank goodness. On a break while she cracks open a new pack of crayons to draw up fresh 'lines of enquiry'.

Thought it was interesting that the only time BF has expressed anything nearing human in her expression or tone was when she asked JC to repeat a flattering comment he had made. JC observed she had grasped a concept of correlation, that others may perceive to be complex. She positively beamed, giggled and asked him to repeat his affirmation...what a 'clever girl' she is.

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