Halifax...

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twitter.com/HalifaxBank/status/1541692892175110146?t=6PoJxoXZAUwWHmXRZdtsxw&s=19

Getting their arses handed to them in the comments, it's rather heartening to see that people have really had enough of this.

twitter.com/HalifaxBank/status/1541786073302433792?t=E_xpGMHqPNolZkP145kPSQ&s=19

Although AndyM here is prepared to defend it to the hilt by actively encouraging customers to close their accounts 😬

Awkward conversation with management about the goal being bringing in customers and not telling them to bugger off for Andy in the office tomorrow perhaps!

American Airlines breaks guitars is still used as how not to do customer services.

If I was investing I would be very curious as to why the senior managment of the retail bank decided to opt for telling its customers to Fuck off. There is some strategic reason for going that far.

Blimey.

Halifax has reportedly lost in excess of £450,000 in investment accounts and savings today after customers closed their accounts following a row over pro-nouns on name badges.

I thought they'd lose maybe 200 account holders. I'll never know, but I would love to know if I got anywhere close.

They are a Bank.
They have whole departments dedicated to ensuring that staff do not accept people are who they say they are.

This: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4511424-M-S-Reviews

Also they have a deliberate policy of letting people use the changing rooms they feel most comfortable with. So if a man wants to use the women's changing room - even the ones in the lingerie department - then that's just fine.

They are a Bank.
They have whole departments dedicated to ensuring that staff do not accept people are who they say they are.

😄

This is spot on.

A policy which, if you challenge them on, they will tell you that you are a nasty closed minded little woman and that your opinion/ feelings / rights don't matter. Then they will ignore you.

Isn't it amazing how these companies are fully able to work out who the women are when they are telling us to shut up or fuck off?

Isn't it amazing how these companies are fully able to work out who the women are when they are telling us to shut up or fuck off?

Or as in the case of Halifax, when drawing the pay cheque.

I have a problem with chosen pronouns because forced pretending is deeply humiliating and proves all the power lies with the gender ideologists, but even worse is being forced to be sexist (and sometimes homophobic) by colluding with idea that gender is what makes us a man or a woman. A man standing in front of me and making me pretend he's a woman, because he is mimicking a sexist conception of womanhood, is degrading me. It's not about politeness, it's about power.

Very well put, Esma.

More eloquently put than I could - exactly!

I'm.glad this has happened. Is this equivalent to the bit in the empowers new clothes where the little boy says 'look mummy, the emperors got no clothes on!'

And thr fiction that everyone is on board with this shit us revealed?

I really do hope so ...

Howard has spoken!

Halifax staff pronouns row as advert star condemns bank

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/5ce63c80-f97c-11ec-ad14-7b04276f4c1f?shareToken=d5c56c1b8d16ab550a349b222ffc3b45

I totally get why ppl are pissed at Halifax - if I had an account with them i'd be closing it.

But where to move to?

As I understand it, snotty Twitter posts notwithstanding, Halifax isn't mandating pronoun badges for all staff (at this point) they are optional same as NatWest, HSBC and Nationwide.

Which bank / building society isn't nauseating woke?

I knew I was right to love him! 💛A Holden heart for you Howard sir. Howard for PM.

Golden not Holden

Murray makes good point about 'woke camouflage'

www.thesun.co.uk/uncategorized/19066525/douglas-murray-halifax-pronoun-madness/

I moved ours to Nationwide. I don’t mind them quietly having badges to support a member of staff who requests one. In a similar way I would 100% support reasonable adjustments being made for anyone who needed them. However I definitely do not support the whole “look at us, we’ve got badges, we’re going to educate you all whether you like it or not!” approach.

1. because they are a bank and as such compelled speech and ideology is beyond their roll.
2. because it puts enormous pressure on trans people who are not yet ready to declare their pronouns, young members of staff who are still learning about who they are, and members of staff who don’t agree with the ideology but fear for their jobs.

if it was a quiet policy which people knew was available if they needed it fine. But the whole shouting about ‘doing the right thing, join us or fuck off’ thing isn’t on.

The lady in Nationwide was wonderfully helpful, friendly and courteous when we were in. I couldn’t recommend them enough. The treatment we got there was in stark contrast to the judgement and scorn in Halifax when we closed our accounts. Though to be fair the lady who we were passed on to in the end was lovely.

Whilst it's disappointing that Nationwide are exploiting the father of a teen with possible rogd without employing their critical thinking skills,.it's the fact Halifax told me to fuck off I'm going to fuck off.
It's pride month, you can't move for the virtue signalling LGBT and to be honest, anyone using just gay, lesbian or bi would be making 5hemselves a target.

Halifax are actively being hostile to me, so I'm leaving. Well, will leave a pound in my account because I want access to it for mortgage purposes, but I will be opening another account. Happy for suggestions of non gender ideology worshippers but in absence of that I'll go for minimal politeness to customers.

They’re all at it. It couldn’t be clearer that this is rainbow capitalism, a way of shielding themselves against people criticising their anti-social ethos in other areas.

I just don’t find it appropriate for a bank to comment on beliefs or align themselves with a single belief or religion. They’re effectively refusing service to people who don’t share their chosen belief, and have told people who find it offensive to fuck off.

Is there a single bank left that doesnt push gender ideology?

My brother moved to Starling, are they any better?

The bank is not woke its performative BS. They are investing in oil and wepons and the sex trade and any other money making schemes which can possibly turn a profit. And will allow families to become homeless as they recover bank assets / loan repayment.

They can't lawfully mandate the pronouns, but if senior management are prepared to back the ideology by publically telling customers to fuck off you can take it as a given that it will be seen as mandatory by "teambuilding" career minded managers.

They are a bank in a regulated industry which expects that employees roles will be strictly documented and demarked with clear boundries and specific delegated authority.
Following rules and being seen to do so is very important, if you dont fit in box A you are never going to be promoted.

Uk law recognises the power imbalance between employer and employee. The employee would have to surrender their right to privacy in exchange for pay. If not unlawfully the bank could collect the data for the PC sex and the PC gender reassignment and publish it without permission.

At this stage i am beginning to wonder if someone has made off with a large chunk of dosh and the management are stoking pronoun PR noise in the hope that journalists miss the real story.

In 2022 alone, the Halifax has so far cut 27 branches across the country.

So it seems that it doesn’t put customer priorities very high on the list of its own priorities.

Now it sees fit not just to serve customers badly but to actually berate them. And then tell them that they can take their business elsewhere. Who do these people think they are?

The truth is the Halifax now joins a long and inglorious list of businesses and corporations which are trying to hide their failures by indulging in this woke nonsense

Not least because it is hard enough just to find an actual, real Halifax staff member at an actual, real branch of the Halifax

From the Sun link up thread, trying to hide their failures is about it.

Well then, seems like it is cash under the mattress time. How much do you think I could get in a bum bag?