Standing for Women Bristol

[axolotlfloof]

Anyone going to College Green this afternoon for the rally?
I am hoping to if I am feeling better - crappy cold, and hope the weather holds.

Humpityhump

She almost certainly has a planner. If you talk us through your own scheduling woes, I'm sure we can find organisational solutions that will mean you can make and keep commitments on consecutive days. What have you tried?

Pfft! She knew fine well he wasn't a wanted man. After all she tased him outside his own home and he had been ' mistakenly' arrested before.

Good luck dealing with Bristol police.

Why were all getcheesys posts removed? While they expressed an unpopular view, I don’t see what guidelines they breached?

The removal of all a poster's posts is usually if they are a PBP (previously banned poster).

Which could explain some things.

I see…. At the risk of sounding all ‘cancel culture’ I was initially concerned GC divergent views were being removed, which would be a shame for these boards.

Divergent views are welcome but there are some super special rules for this forum which can lead to deletions.

Derailing a thread can get you deleted, ie repeatedly referring to someone or something that is not the focus of the thread.

Finally, this forum is not a hive mind. As one of the few places online which permits posters not to follow the TWAW line it obviously will have a majority view that sex matters but there are a variety views within that are regularly debated robustly.

After spending a few years on this board Billi, I can safely say that MNHQ is never at risk of removing 'GC divergent' views because they tend to be much harsher the other way round. In fact, it is laughable that any poster who had spent even a short time on this board would suggest that.

If a 'GC divergent' post has been deleted, it is usually because it is a 'negative generalisation' or a 'personal attack' or uses words that are against the MN FWR special talk guidelines or some other reason. In fact, often even those posts remain because regulars will not report them because they are a real time demonstration of the tactics used by activists, whether that poster intends them to be or not.

So, no. There is no risk that MNHQ will remove 'GC divergent' posts if they fit the talk guidelines, if the poster actually takes the time to read those guidelines and just like the rest of us abides by them. They are more likely to delete posts from feminist regulars, when they are reported, on grounds that are usually unclear.

A feminist regular once got a deletion for a the MN-specific emoticon .

It's like getting deleted for posting "YABU"!

All Hellycakes posts are also gone from this board at the same time. I doubt it is MNHQ 'over modding' GC divergent opinions and more to do the PBPs.

Does anyone remember TRAs protesting some women who were giving some feminist material to a library, and holding a little talk outside, whilst Tommy Robinson was holding a rally in the same city? The TRAs cited 'safeguarding concerns' as the reason for not protesting Robinson.

*I might not have the details entirely correct, but it definitely happened.

Yes, using this force's policing decisions as a moral compass would be exceedingly foolish. IIRC, Mr Judah Adunbi (the race relations adviser) alleged that after he was the victim of the wrongful Taser discharge mentioned, other police officers stopped him in the street to ask if he was this other man. While giggling.

If someone is discovered to be a PBP (Previously Banned Poster), it is not an unusual occurrence for MNHQ to delete all the posts the poster has made under that name.

If all of someone's posts are gone, that's why.
I think I saw it said that this likely PBP posted unpopular views, wish leaves me feeling ashamed as I never worked out what the point of view was! Certainly wasn't able to determine the view's popularity. I feel like I've come out of the cinema at the end of a bewildering avant-garde arthouse film, to see that everyone else understood what the director meant with it.

That is appalling!

Found a newspaper report mentioning it. It's not the one I was thinking of, which had a fuller description of events from Mr Adunbi, but it will do for now. You'd think that Mr Adunbi and McCalla (man wanted for GBH) lived next door to each other, from the number of times Mr Adunbi gets mistaken for him.

extract

A race relations adviser tasered in the face by an officer has been mistaken by police again for the same wanted man.

Police stopped Judah Adunbi on 17 October because they mistook him for Royston McCalla who is suspected of a grievous bodily harm (GBH) offence.

PC Claire Boddie was cleared of assaulting Mr Adunbi with a taser after also mistaking him for Mr McCalla.

Black rights campaigner Desmond Brown, said the only similarity between the two was "they are both black men".

Avon and Somerset Police confirmed officers looking for Mr McCalla had stopped Mr Adunbi.

A spokesman said: "Officers on patrol in a marked car drove alongside a man in Chelsea Road to ask for his name, as they thought he might be a man wanted for a grievous bodily harm offence committed in Filton Avenue, Bristol, in the early hours of 11 October.

"The man was asked to confirm his name but he didn't reply.

"On closer look, officers were able to establish the man wasn't the wanted suspect and they drove off. We fully accept the man the officers spoke to wasn't the man we're trying to trace."

Mr Brown, said it was "amazing" Mr Adunbi had been stopped again yards from his house when he "looks nothing like" wanted man Mr Mccalla."Not the same height, build, type of dread locks or even eye colour," he said.

"The similarity, they are both black men," he said.

He said Mr Adunbi said the officers involved had been "laughing" despite the "distress caused".

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-45911693

We are discussing intimidation and violence against a group of women holding a face-to-face meeting in a British city, and how the police's poor decision making allowed it to continue.

What is the relevance here of social media? Should the police take a hands-off approach to football hooligans wearing Manchester United colours, while they check to see if anyone has ever said anything nasty on reddit about David Beckham?

So some far right people are transphobic. No surprise there. What has this got to do with us?

growingunderground I can't see the Independent article as its behind a paywall, does it mention that the far right also hates gay people and feminists? Does it state that one of their tactics is to promote violence against women? If not, you're only getting half the story - they aim to destabilise society and take it over. They use various tactics including violence, propaganda, and divide and rule.

The far right don't support universal human rights, and that's a good reason for the rest of us to be very clear about the fact that we do.

I was able to read it the second time I clicked on it. They have honed in on Jennifer Bilek, yet they state that there is no evidence of a link between GC feminism and QAnon. It just seems a load of waffle to me. I don't feel any further forward.

Maybe someone cleverer than me can explain the threads and how they connect.

There's an article in The Independent today that is covering a lot of the same points that have been deleted here

The Independent is about as reliable and unbiased a media source as Pink News.

I was able to read it the second time I clicked on it. They have honed in on Jennifer Bilek, yet they state that there is no evidence of a link between GC feminism and QAnon. It just seems a load of waffle to me. I don't feel any further forward.

I listened to a shite TRA podcast the other day which was much the same, suggested it was well known but didn't quite manage to provide the connection.

So, to conclude this latest episode of Surrealist Cinema/Posting, could you wims just go through this checkpoint list with me, in case I have to write an essay on what we just watched/read?

1. People with very different political opinions and outlooks exist.
2. These people also have wifi and a need for social interaction.
3. Alternative social networks exist that cater to people who wouldn't like it on mumsnet.
4. One of these networks is called telegram.

Is that right?

In essence, women are getting blamed for the behaviour of dickhead males on both sides. Have I got that right?