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Not even Foo Fighters are immune...

107 replies

MummBRaaarrrTheEverLeaking · 15/06/2022 10:21

I had an email this morning regarding the line up of the upcoming Taylor Hawkins tribute concert. I am a fan, but a) cannot afford it, I know it'll be expensive and b) hoping it's streamed as would be happy to pay for that instead.

Anyways, there, near the bottom "with an special appearance from Dave Chappelle"

I smelt trouble, and sure enough you can imagine what twitter is like this morning, all yikes and disappointment and heartbroken at giving up their favourite band, one going even as far to say fuck foo fighters.

I can't imagine what the band is going through in the wake of the loss of Taylor, but the pile on modus operandi of the bullies has begun reagrdless, and probably won't end until Dave Chappelle has been booted from the line up with massive pandering apologies. After which they'll be whinged at to cough up big time/ give portion of their ticket sales to trans organisations, and get a special mention at the concert itself because as we all know, nothing is good enough 🙄

One of the biggest bands in the world, and even they can't escape the hyperbolic tantrums of the woo-woo!

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SolasAnla · 15/06/2022 22:23

picklemewalnuts · 15/06/2022 14:27

@SolasAnla , I'm confused and want to understand. You thought the person asking who Dave Chapelle is should just Google it.

Three questions,
where does the tennis ball come into it?
Why did you say he's a radio guy with white privilege?
Why can't people ask something so it's explained within the right context? I could Google it, but get unrelated stuff about the guy that wouldn't explain this controversy at all. Ask an expert, surely?

Yes.

@Cornettoninja nails it at 16:52.
@RufustheFloralmissingreindeer everybody is failing to remember the racket? Just focused on the ball, .... freudian. 😀

Just a cryptic little pisstake on US culture... add in CNN and see what pops.

Emotional labor request accepted😀 no LMGTFY or search on MN or demand that you educate yourself, or read a book..
People can ask and not like the third party opinion, the "right" context is subjective.
"Unrelated" stuff can end up being relevant as gives the seeker a chance to look at multiple facts to form their own independant well rounded opinion.
Or pop off (back) to Twitter do a search of FF or DC and see what pops.

@RufustheFloralmissingreindeer message should be do it yourself…and a hammer emoji

Why add a hammer..
nailed it? ..
Hard work? ..
Thick as a plank?...

Selkiesarereal · 15/06/2022 22:53

Off to google Foo Fighters tribute and see if I can get tickets - had been a little worried when I saw the thread title.

Wanderingowl · 15/06/2022 23:40

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WolverineBluey · 15/06/2022 23:48

Manderleyagain · 15/06/2022 21:23

I don't get why people object to people asking questions on internet forums instead of googling. I mean we are all on the thread to talk about the topic, so why not ask the posters here to clarify something about the topic? Someone might like to answer. No one is forced to answer. If no one answers they will have to Google or remain without the knowledge. Nothing bad happens.

While I somewhat agree with you, it does seem odd that anyone would stride into a discussion on this board and claim not to know who Dave Chappelle is!

Beamur · 15/06/2022 23:56

I'm always a shade wary of the (faux) naive.
In other news I have been emailed a priority code for booking tickets early! Love you Dave x

AngeloMysterioso · 16/06/2022 00:14

Well I was really hoping to go, and it’s the day after my bday so would have been amazing, but the cheapest tickets are over £70 Sad

MrJollyLivesNextDoor · 16/06/2022 00:42

While I somewhat agree with you, it does seem odd that anyone would stride into a discussion on this board and claim not to know who Dave Chappelle is!

@WolverineBluey

Stumbled onto this thread
No idea who DC is
Quick google tells me he is an American comedian
Slightly younger than me (= git)
Looks like he might be quite annoying - I'm basing this on him being an American and a Comedian. I'm sure he'd say the same about me.
He was in You've Got Mail (1998), a film which showed Meg Ryan sending email using a laptop in bed WITHOUT the worlds longest Ethernet cable. Did WiFi exist back then?
I don't remember him in You've Got Mail.
You've Got Mail wasn't as good as Sleepless in Seattle.

Anyway
As you were

picklemewalnuts · 16/06/2022 06:32

Thank you @SolasAnla - no amount of googling would have explained your answer, so thank you for taking the emotional labour! My mind clearly doesn't work the same way as yours, I'm no good at cryptic. I still don't get the CNN racquet tennis ball reference, but at least I don't feel like I'm missing something obvious now!

KittenKong · 16/06/2022 07:38

IvyTwines · 15/06/2022 11:29

I hope they don't cave in. Grunge was a movement where women felt like powerful equals, were not leeringly sexualised, men like Kurt Cobain could wear eyeliner and a dress without being compartmentalised or looking like they were doing 'womanface'. The backlash here was Britpop and new laddism, girls all 'hello boys' in little bits of lycra, Blur's Country House video with its Benny Hill shit.

Ah yes, the time they tried to trans Kurt… I wondered what the band thought of that at the time.

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 16/06/2022 08:50

SolasAnla · 15/06/2022 22:23

Yes.

@Cornettoninja nails it at 16:52.
@RufustheFloralmissingreindeer everybody is failing to remember the racket? Just focused on the ball, .... freudian. 😀

Just a cryptic little pisstake on US culture... add in CNN and see what pops.

Emotional labor request accepted😀 no LMGTFY or search on MN or demand that you educate yourself, or read a book..
People can ask and not like the third party opinion, the "right" context is subjective.
"Unrelated" stuff can end up being relevant as gives the seeker a chance to look at multiple facts to form their own independant well rounded opinion.
Or pop off (back) to Twitter do a search of FF or DC and see what pops.

@RufustheFloralmissingreindeer message should be do it yourself…and a hammer emoji

Why add a hammer..
nailed it? ..
Hard work? ..
Thick as a plank?...

There was a racquet?!?

that probably wouldn’t have helped 😀

do it yourself…DIY…hammer

see this is why im no good at the emoji music question at the local pub quiz

Cornettoninja · 16/06/2022 08:53

I know you’re not intending to be funny @RufustheFloralmissingreindeer but I’ve really enjoyed the insight into your mind Grin

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 16/06/2022 09:09

cornetto

its a weird place, not gonna lie

PronounssheRa · 16/06/2022 09:10

Well that seems to have sold out rather fast.

Manderleyagain · 16/06/2022 09:10

WolverineBluey · 15/06/2022 23:48

While I somewhat agree with you, it does seem odd that anyone would stride into a discussion on this board and claim not to know who Dave Chappelle is!

Yes unusual. But I figured it must have popped up in trending or something and we were getting non fwr regulars. The more the merrier!

PonyPatter44 · 16/06/2022 09:20

Dave didn't cave. Show apparently sold out in SEVEN minutes!

KittenKong · 16/06/2022 09:23

Good. I have a soft spot for Dave - he’s so nice about his mum! (Gawd I’m getting old…)

Wanderingowl · 16/06/2022 10:25

Is there a link for the 7 minutes sell out?

PronounssheRa · 16/06/2022 10:44

Wanderingowl · 16/06/2022 10:25

Is there a link for the 7 minutes sell out?

It's the pre sale tickets that have sold out.

I think there is still general sale tomorrow but they won't last long

Beamur · 16/06/2022 10:57

I think today was a pre-sale which they release to fans first. The rest will sell out too I expect.

Wanderingowl · 16/06/2022 11:07

Thanks, I just wanted something to send to someone I was talking to about it and wanted to verify it first.

Plasmodesmata · 16/06/2022 11:08

I think some of the pre-sale tickets went to people who had already bought tickets for the tour which they sadly had to cancel.

WallaceinAnderland · 16/06/2022 11:44

Just reading the (very long) list of requests following Netflix's decision to air Dave C's show - and this is only part of it, there's more -

The following is the full text of the letter written by a group of transgender employees at Netflix to the company leadership:

Specifically, we want the Company to adopt measures in the areas of Content Investment, Employee Relations and Safety, and Harm Reduction, all of which are necessary to avoid future instances of platforming transphobia and hate speech, and to account for the harm we have caused and will continue to cause until the below measures are put in place.

Content Investment

Create a new fund to specifically develop trans and non-binary talent

This fund should support both above-the-line (ATL) and below-the-line (BTL) talent;

This fund should exist in addition to the existing Creative Equity Fund;

Increase investment in trans and non-binary content on Netflix comparable to our total investment in transphobic content, including marketing and promotion;

Invest in multiple trans creators to make both scripted and unscripted programs across genres;

Revise internal processes on commissioning and releasing potential harmful ('sensitive') content, including but not limited to involving parties who are a part of the subject community and can speak to potential harm, or consulting with 3rd party experts/vendors;

Increase the ERG role in conversations around potentially harmful content and ensure we have best in class regional support on complicated intersectional diversity issues;

Hire trans and non-binary content executives, especially BIPOC, in leading positions;

My question is this - How do they know how staff at Netflix identify, are they asking everyone to out themselves?

TitsInAbsentia · 16/06/2022 13:37

Incognolio · 15/06/2022 12:02

He basically says things like gender is a fact and other things that are true but the alphabet people don't want to hear. He says it better than that and funny at times.

He also said that he agrees with the me too movement but not how they went about it. Like wearing the same thing doesn't make a statement not turning up makes a statement. Things that make sense, but are controversial...

His last special detailed his trans friend, another comedian, who stuck up for him after the community went after him and committed suicide days after she was jumped on for defending him. He doesn't know what was going on with her but he assumes the way she was attacked for defending him had something to do with it... He makes good points and he's funny to boot but most of what he says makes sense and is very cleverly delivered. Worth watching his specials.

Thank you for that!

AngeloMysterioso · 17/06/2022 09:37
Grin
Not even Foo Fighters are immune...
nailsathome · 17/06/2022 10:05

I got tickets too! Cannot wait

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