LGB Alliance monkeypox tweets deleted

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The LGB Alliance tweets from yesterday about gay men and monkeypox have been deleted by twitter for either homophobia or misinformation.

Didn't Stonewall campaign against same sex marriage? But then they are quite blatant about their homophobia these days.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/stonewall-is-split-by-row-about-samesex-marriages-2095468.html

The charity will finish its consultation exercise later this month. He said: "There is a range of views on this subject, from those who very much want gay marriages and for them to be mandatory in churches, to those who reject civil partnerships as 'hetero-normative'. We are determined to achieve as broad a consensus on this as possible and to that end we are consulting our supporters on what issues they want us to prioritise.

It's really embarrassing when people show their ignorance of LGBT history in an attempt to smear.

This is important medical public health information.

It's a current observation and also includes health workers working in sti clinics as bbc has reported.

It shouldn't be seen as phobic or an issue.

Just as correct language around womens health shouldn't be seen as transphobic or an issue.

The LGB Alliance calling for gay venues to be shut down is VERY funny because they are not a group that advocates for gay interests.

No they didn't, read the tweet again. They called for the temporary closure of all commercial sex venues.

Think it's important to remember that monkeypox doesn't disproportionately affect gay men, it has disproportionately been detected in gay men. This isn't the same thing.

This demographic are typically very very good at noticing unusual symptoms and engaging with sexual health services to help raise the alarm about new outbreaks in their community.

I think we need to be very very careful of messaging that implies that straight people are immune to monkeypox and don't need to worry about it.

I know one very ardent lesbian who thinks that gay marriage is selling out to part of an establishment based on straight society. She is currently living with four women. I I don’t think anyone could call her homophobic with a straight face.

Yes excellent distinction canyou.

It's really embarrassing when people show their ignorance of LGBT history in an attempt to smear.

I know. And they are proud to crowingly post penis news links to support it.

It would have to be embarrassing too to not understand how democracy works and how laws are passed and how some passionate supporters of same sex marriage would have been advocating voting ‘no’ until the law reflected what they believed was the best way forward.

But penis news….

So, Ra, does that other poster really think that all gay venues are commercial sex venues?

Wouldn’t that be homophobic?

They called for the temporary closure of all commercial sex venues.

How many straight leather bars are there? or clubs with dark rooms? These were specifically pointed out.

The women of Mumsnet can support LGBA as much as like but the fact is this support is actually detrimental to LGBA, young gay males feel it's like their straight mums telling them what to do and obviously that puts them off.

Bbc noted that it's currently been detected among bisexual men and it's mostly been males; implying that some women have been affected too.

The virus is clearly spreading fast via very close body fluid contact but doesn't mean it won't affect other communities nor spread via airborne droplets as it's known to.

I'm remembering how many people I snogged in freshers week as a teen in the 90s for example...

Glad they are being shown up for who they really are

I think the only person here being shown up for who they really are is you, hearach15. Maybe read a bit more broadly than a blog run by Ben Cohen or is it just that you take your complete set of opinions from him too?

The women of Mumsnet can support LGBA as much as like but the fact is this support is actually detrimental to LGBA, young gay males feel it's like their straight mums telling them what to do and obviously that puts them off.

There is support and ‘support’. Maybe young gay males have issues if they think the lesbian women who were the significant drivers of setting up LGBA are like ‘their straight mums’.

And again, FFS, if you properly canvassed the UK, you would probably find many people still support Stonewall who are also not part of the groups represented by Stonewall.

So can the same be said about Stonewall?

The symptoms aren't subtle. It is unlikely you would not go to the doctor/seek medical help if you catch monkeypox. Gay or not. It is currently disproportionately affecting a community consisting of gay men. It would be irresponsible to ignore this and not provide targeted public health messages.

Of course straight people should be supporting others

I'm doubtful that a huge number of lgba's supporters (apologies for using the word members incorrectly earlier) are bisexual given tweets like those below

Clearly there are TRAs who monitor everything the LGB Alliance says and try their best to get them banned from Twitter (remember the hit list of 4000 GC Twitter handles TRAs had to get banned?).

The LGB Alliance was set up by a number of founders of Stonewall disillusioned with the direction of that group. Unfortunately many people have lapped up the smears about them, and fail to understand that gay people actually have a variety of views.

Attitude (a magazine for gay men), has now been rebranded as a magazine for the LGBT+ community, Diva (a magazine for lesbians) now features someone who identified as a heterosexual man last year on their cover.

The symptoms aren't subtle.

This is incorrect.

Yes the symptoms are subtle to begin with - again this is another piece of misinformation that gets bandied around and will lead to people delaying seeking help.

There have been many many cases now that start with a minor, single, lesion around the genitals that has been mistaken for other STDs. During this time the individual is still contagious so it is best they are aware as early as possible.

I'm doubtful that a huge number of lgba's supporters (apologies for using the word members incorrectly earlier) are bisexual given tweets like those below

Well yes, that's fairly clearly from a gay man or a lesbian, isn't it?

Apparently most of the outbreaks among gay men were traced to private parties so what are LGBA suggesting we do about that? Should gay men also be kept under a curfew and should we have restrictions on the number of people they can mix with?

Foilball

And you obviously have your own agenda on this thread.

Please do keep posting because what you are actually doing is giving posters plenty of opportunity to show the lack of thought in your thinking and your arguments.

Obviously, you think bisexual people should have access to every lesbian or gay group or venue and that no lesbian or gay people should be able to have spaces just for them?

Have I got that right? Is that what you are telling us? That homosexual people should allow bisexual people to access all their spaces? Because….?

What agenda do you think I have?

The LGB alliance should be advocating for lesbian, gay AND bisexual people, in my opinion, not seeking to exclude bisexual people. That's why the b is there, I'd have thought.

Thank you for giving me permission to continue to post.

Ask them to stop having those parties for a while, with appropriately targeted public health messaging?

The LGB alliance should be advocating for lesbian, gay AND bisexual people, in my opinion, not seeking to exclude bisexual people. That's why the b is there, I'd have thought.

Don't you think sometimes gay men might want a space just for them? With bisexual men welcome, but not female partners?

And lesbians might want a space without any men? Regardless of those men's orientation or identity?

That may well be so, for some people, some of the time.

My point is it's not a view that's particularly enticing or welcoming for bisexual people and therefore I don't think a high proportion of lgba's supporters are bisexual