Stella Creasy says women can have penises

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Stella Creasy has doubled down on her TWAW position in today's Telegraph www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/stella-creasy-jk-rowling-wrong-woman-can-have-penis/

She's really not as clever as she thinks she is.

We do have words which define biology - female isn’t one which is commonly and consistently used solely for sex categories alone

Oh right then, us scientists have been using the wrong word. Anyone got a clue what to use instead?

This happens so often. When children are tutored and babysat to the nth degree throughout their childhood, and do indeed get all As. They use long words a lot, but zero critical thinking or common sense. Nightmare as employees.

We do have words which define biology - female isn’t one which is commonly and consistently used solely for sex categories alone

No, like all words are not commonly and consistently used for one thing.

I can see we were right to take the piss out of the SPS crowd at Cambridge if they think this is a fucking insight.

Guess what - in laws and other formal contexts, you have to use words consistently, and they are used consistently.

If you are going to campaign as a Member of Parliament for words to be used inconsistently, then you need to fuck right off and get a job where you will do less damage.

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This.

So disappointed in Stella. I used to really like her, but recently have realised she’s what my old boss used to call a ‘chocolate’ - as in if she were made of chocolate she’d eat herself.

She lacks the ability to think critically and just jumps on every left-wing bandwagon to establish her right-on credentials.

I say this as somebody who leans left myself, but is now politically homeless and FURIOUS with Labour for this shit.

Is she saying 'electricians use 'male' and 'female' to designate connectors and therefore women no longer exist as a distinct category'?

#ToddlerLogic

This isn't new for Stella BTW. She's always been firmly TWAW. She just hasn't had such a daft headline in a national newspaper before.

The way she engages with people who disagree with her on twitter is breathtakingly arrogant.

When children are tutored and babysat to the nth degree throughout their childhood, and do indeed get all As. They use long words a lot, but zero critical thinking or common sense. Nightmare as employees.

100%. I've worked with some shockers.

I can't believe I used to think she was one of the good ones.

I think she is a good person. I'm sure she believes what she says and thinks she's doing the right thing.

She's spent her whole life in posh schools, then sociology at a posh uni, then amongst think tanks and lobbyists then as an MP.

Her only experience of 'normal' life is studying it in books and having activists tell her about their pet topic.

Me too.

As a fellow Oxbridge grad, even without her public profile, I’d be mortified at being featured in a broadsheet spouting counter -factual ideological tripe. The shame!

You’re right. She tries to be good so painfully hard, and is utterly and unshakeably convinced she is, and this, coupled with a strong sense of the superiority of her own intellect, is why she can’t see the wood for the trees.

I can’t believe her central genius proposition is, because people sometimes use words incorrectly, the meaning of the word has changed. I’m absolutely certain she would not accept this if I crashed my car into hers from behind and then tried to argue ‘massive dent’ also means ‘tiny scratch’.

Words can change their meaning based on established use. The meaning of ‘female’ is exactly what it has always been, and even if it were not, we would still need a word to denote those organisms that are not male.

I don't think she is fawn mode at all. I think that's a bit patronizing - suggests women have no agency. Stella Creasy has agency, intelligence and power and she is using it bloody badly. Her politics is tin-eared, performative virtue signaling. It is far more joining a religion - singing the texts joyfully to the hills - than fawning for protection.

I'm so glad that this kind of shite is on the record, permanently. Archived forever, so these pathetic weasels have nowhere to hide when logic and sanity prevails. If someone's career can be finished over a dubious tweet made 20 years ago when they were 15, I cannot imagine what will happen to this lot in 2040. I do hope I'm still alive to watch karma play out.

You know what I’m glad it’s in record too

We know exactly who wants to destroy our rights

The perfect and timely example of Ricky Gervais' observation, well done Stella.

Also, Stella mentions her son - how does she know he is her son? How did Stella become pregnant? Was it a woman with a penis who obliged?

Stella would presumably argue that of course she is biologically female, but that she is also female by virtue of the fact that she has a ‘female gender identity’, and people who don’t share her biology but also have a ‘female gender identity’ are female too.

So what she would say that makes people who have the same biological structure as she does but claim a ‘male gender identity’ I couldn’t tell you.

Is she saying 'electricians use 'male' and 'female' to designate connectors and therefore women no longer exist as a distinct category'?

Worse than that, biologists use them to designate sexes, which means you can't plug your gadgets together reliably any more.

But Creasy insists she isn’t ‘re-engineering female’. No, no. Nothing to see here.

If someone had supplied me female XLR connectors instead of male and tried to justify it on grounds of "hyenas", I think I'd be really annoyed.

I definitely know people who are very very clever on paper and very talented at their particular thing, but literally do not have the common sense they were born with.

‘I definitely know people who are very very clever on paper and very talented at their particular thing, but literally do not have the common sense they were born with.’

I think she’s the definition of over-educated.

I've noticed this push of using the word female to describe men lately.
Newspapers calling transwomen 'trans female' etc.

Stella has dug herself a hole so deep she can never backtrack.

Stella also got elected through an all women shortlist (the original kind)

I wonder how many of the Labour MPs who were elected through all women shortlists have used their position to support the dismantling of women's rights? It's a very uncomfortable thought.

A prof at the University of York is engaging SC and asks why the word ‘woman’ can’t be used to denote either sex or gender identity and the word ‘female’ reserved to sex.

SC answer:

’Except that’s contested too ( concept of femininity etc) and at what point do you recognise the contestation isn’t just about categories but recognition. This isn’t an argument for no categorisation but it is for understanding the power behind these words in context.’

Can anyone interpret this for me? I’m desperately trying to understand.