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I know not everyone likes Ricky Gervais but some of this I liked - Old fashioned women

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BasiliskStare · 25/05/2022 15:52

So the old fashioned women with wombs and vaginas - the dinosaurs . that made me laugh. variety.com/2022/tv/news/ricky-gervais-trans-jokes-netflix-special-supernature-1235275966/

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Idhatetolookintothoseeyes · 25/05/2022 17:43

👏🏻

Shouldershrugger · 25/05/2022 17:44

I found it brilliant. Pure genius

BasiliskStare · 25/05/2022 19:37

& he has had so much backlash for it for being transphobic . Bloody hell , I'm a dinosaur woman , have the chromosomes , - I loved him standing up and saying that. I don't think he is transphobic for a moment but he called out some ridiculousness & for that - I like him.

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DoctorTwo · 25/05/2022 19:53

Not only that but quoting what the TRAs say back at them. Thatis, apparently, transphobic. Love them to show me how when all he did was to parrot what they have already said. Brilliant.

Tania64 · 25/05/2022 19:56

He's amazing. What a great show, I love him even more than I did before due to him standing up for bio women and making me laugh so much.

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BasiliskStare · 25/05/2022 20:23

So I am on board with trans rights but ( if you can imagine a Venn diagram ) they should not impinge on womens' rights so if women's rights in one circle and trans rights in the other - in the intersection there will be hard questions . & one thing which with I will not up put is calling myself other than a woman - so Cis Woman , menstruator , Cervix owner etc etc - Oh do bugger off. Call yourself what you like but I was born a woman I am a woman - and that is that.

I just liked him for saying things out loud - it appears he has been castigated for it. I like his last line - If you want to be a woman - meet us half way - lose the cock . ( I know many genuine trans people may not like this ) but it does kind of say - you just can't tell women what they should be because you want to be one.

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PennyPinkPineapple · 27/05/2022 22:54

I'm just watching this now like 😲😂

Fair play...

GoodJanetBadJanet · 27/05/2022 23:46

“Oh, women!” he starts. “Not all women, I mean the old-fashioned ones. The old-fashioned women, the ones with wombs. Those fucking dinosaurs. I love the new women. They’re great, aren’t they? The new ones we’ve been seeing lately. The ones with beards and cocks. They’re as good as gold, I love them. And now the old-fashioned ones say, ‘Oh, they want to use our toilets.’ ‘Why shouldn’t they use your toilets?’ ‘For ladies!’ ‘They are ladies — look at their pronouns! What about this person isn’t a lady?’ ‘Well, his penis.’ ‘Her penis, you fucking bigot!’ ‘What if he rapes me?’ ‘What if she rapes you, you fucking TERF whore?'”

See, how is that funny?
I get we all have a different sense of humour, but still.
Where does he get off, as a man, calling me an old fashioned woman and a fucking dinosaur?
Smacks a bit of trying to jump on a bandwagon to get some cheap laughs.
But people will lap it all up and still say he's a legend as he managed to slag off trans women too Confused Hmm

LemonPalmTree · 27/05/2022 23:47

GoodJanetBadJanet · 27/05/2022 23:46

“Oh, women!” he starts. “Not all women, I mean the old-fashioned ones. The old-fashioned women, the ones with wombs. Those fucking dinosaurs. I love the new women. They’re great, aren’t they? The new ones we’ve been seeing lately. The ones with beards and cocks. They’re as good as gold, I love them. And now the old-fashioned ones say, ‘Oh, they want to use our toilets.’ ‘Why shouldn’t they use your toilets?’ ‘For ladies!’ ‘They are ladies — look at their pronouns! What about this person isn’t a lady?’ ‘Well, his penis.’ ‘Her penis, you fucking bigot!’ ‘What if he rapes me?’ ‘What if she rapes you, you fucking TERF whore?'”

See, how is that funny?
I get we all have a different sense of humour, but still.
Where does he get off, as a man, calling me an old fashioned woman and a fucking dinosaur?
Smacks a bit of trying to jump on a bandwagon to get some cheap laughs.
But people will lap it all up and still say he's a legend as he managed to slag off trans women too Confused Hmm

Did you watch it or just read a transcript?

PiffleWiffleWoozle · 27/05/2022 23:49

Have you watched it @GoodJanetBadJanet ?

it’s clear it’s a joke when delivered live, doesn’t work in quite the same way when written.

PurpleTrain11 · 27/05/2022 23:51

Loved loved loved it

FlowerArranger · 27/05/2022 23:53

PiffleWiffleWoozle · 27/05/2022 23:49

Have you watched it @GoodJanetBadJanet ?

it’s clear it’s a joke when delivered live, doesn’t work in quite the same way when written.

Oh yes, I thought it was spot on!!

I will not up put is calling myself other than a woman - so Cis Woman , menstruator , Cervix owner etc etc - Oh do bugger off. Call yourself what you like but I was born a woman I am a woman - and that is that.

Amen, Sister.......... I mean@BasiliskStare 😎

GoodJanetBadJanet · 27/05/2022 23:54

it’s clear it’s a joke when delivered live, doesn’t work in quite the same way when written

How does it magically become funny if you hear it said and not just written?
It's still the same "joke."

GladysEehmmanuel · 27/05/2022 23:55

It's a dialogue in the joke not a monologue.

PickAChew · 27/05/2022 23:57

I not a fan of his but the sarcasm related to makes who claim to be women in that transcript is obvious. And the dinosaurs thing is c/o David Lammy and his rights hoarding dinosaurs comment, as still lampooned by a significant portion of GC twitter.

ludocris · 27/05/2022 23:58

GoodJanetBadJanet · 27/05/2022 23:54

it’s clear it’s a joke when delivered live, doesn’t work in quite the same way when written

How does it magically become funny if you hear it said and not just written?
It's still the same "joke."

Do you know anything about comedy? It's called 'delivery'. The way the comedian tells the story. His mannerisms and facial expressions.

The other key word here is 'irony'.

GladysEehmmanuel · 28/05/2022 00:02

He's holding a mirror up to the hypocrisy we suffer constantly with the be kind/terf slag attitudes, I think he nailed it.

ErrolTheDragon · 28/05/2022 00:04

He's not calling women dinosaurs. He's satirising the likes of Lammy calling us dinosaurs.

IstayedForTheFeminism · 28/05/2022 00:15

I haven't laughed as much in ages as I did watching this earlier.

I didn't think I liked RG. I do now Grin

FlowerArranger · 28/05/2022 00:20

IstayedForTheFeminism · 28/05/2022 00:15

I haven't laughed as much in ages as I did watching this earlier.

I didn't think I liked RG. I do now Grin

You and me both!

GoodJanetBadJanet · 28/05/2022 00:22

Do you know anything about comedy?
Yes, I do.
It's called 'delivery'.
I know.
Still don't find a bloke wittering on about calling women dinosaurs funny though.

GoodJanetBadJanet · 28/05/2022 00:24

And the dinosaurs thing is c/o David Lammy and his rights hoarding dinosaurs comment, as still lampooned by a significant portion of GC twitter.

Yes, I realise that, but still seems he's jumped on a bandwagon here as it'll get people talking about him.

mrshoho · 28/05/2022 02:42

GoodJanetBadJanet · 28/05/2022 00:22

Do you know anything about comedy?
Yes, I do.
It's called 'delivery'.
I know.
Still don't find a bloke wittering on about calling women dinosaurs funny though.

It's satire directed at the absurdity of the TWAW claims. Comedy gold. Nice one Ricky Gervais 👏 👍

Whooshaagh · 28/05/2022 03:04

@GoodJanetBadJanet You remind me of dd aged about 9. ‘But why is it funny Mummy?’
Perhaps stick to American comedy.