Non-binary debate in Westminster

[tabbycatstripy]

On now. I don’t know who this guy is who is speaking but he’s just said, “It ain’t fair and it’s not right” and he is a LEGEND.

Watch and comment!

Was Dodds’s brief just to confuse things as much as possible?

Ah ha, on phone.

Dodds having a miraculous waffle.

AD: we need to have more research, there's not much data

Govt have rowed back on ban on conversion therapy

She's onto the Cass Review. Lack of support. Lack of treatment for C&YP in general - I'm with her there.

conversion therapy?

Has anyone ever been converted out of a non-binary identity? Ever?

Now for some reason she’s talking about conversion therapy. I have no idea why.

Ms Dodds: what does non-binary mean? How many people are non-binary? What is the evidential basis for this state of being? Why does it need a new law? Do you agree with a new law?

If I dodn't know what her perspective was I'd have no bloody idea. She sees and saws and lacks internal logic!

Right, no idea what she's on about. Complex, practial, bla bla, bla, non-binary passports, conversion, however documents, research, bla bla bal.

Sorry I'm not doing well at transcribing.

Thanks. This discussion is so ridiculous. Everyone has a sex whether they like it or not.

Holy fuck. Is it time for juice and biscuits? I cannot parse out what she's saying, leapfrogging from one non-sequitur to another

CAtering?!

She's a feminist? Lol

Now she’s on to feminism.

I have no clue.

jobs in catering should be open to non binary people too.

Okay.

What? NON BINARY not bloody trans, or conversion therapy. Stop it!

Can you define non binary and can it be legislated for?

But then she moves on to something I agree with, can not even begin to disagree with!

I don't know...

Nobody knows what Dodds thinks.

Key value is respect.

Highly emotive.

Fundamental to peoiple's sense of self.

That includes people who id as non -binary

we need to condemn each other less and understand each other more

(I'm trying)

Mike Freer next.

She sounds really gender critical, until she talks about 'identifying'

I can't wrap my head round it. Cognitive dissonance

Can you define non binary and can it be legislated for?

I thought that was what this discussion was about. Instead it seems to be a couple of TRAs flinging vague, nonsensical truisms about while trying to look virtuous.

Ooh! A man speaks and I understand what he means!

Respect, real diversity, but he still thinks there can be a compromise!

That's why I typed it out. To remind myself that there is a quite simple reason for this!

Same sex marriage bill.

Equal marriage? If non binary is a thing there'll be no such thing as a sexed marriage!

This is a debate triggered by a petition, isn't it?

'no plans to change the GRA' nor to change the EA

Yes, I think so.