Non-binary debate in Westminster

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On now. I don’t know who this guy is who is speaking but he’s just said, “It ain’t fair and it’s not right” and he is a LEGEND.

Watch and comment!

Yes, define your fucking terms, then we can talk.

She’s Kirsten Oswald.

The SNP talk absolute shite, don’t they?

Kirsten Oswald MP (SNP) now speaking - says we shouldn't conflate non-binary with neurodiversity. Excellent intervention by Miriam Cates saying there is clear evidence that neurodiverse children are over- represented /10

From FPFW

Someone needs to tell the SNP woman that she cannot consent on behalf of the female sex.

Yes. It's quite a skill, though, waffling with such conviction.

Someone needs to sit her down with a few key people eg detransitioners and perhaps the team at reduxx

Fucksake. I think I'm going to have to go non-binary on their ass.

Annelise Dodds is up.

FRO dragging intersex into this.

She’s waffling about intersex people.

Everyone is different, she says. We will find solutions by working together.

Talking about the reform to the GRA, removing the spousal consent provision (she’s still on about that).

Fundamental value for Labour is respect, she says.

OH FFS

Oh, god, why are all the Scottish women talking such mince ... I'm actually affronted.

sex continues to play an important role.

No shit.

Keep talking, FPFW seems to have stopped...

'made a transition in their gender'

AD is asked whether she's happy to accept a transwoman in the changing room ...

she says she may well already ahve done so

refers him to the EHRC guidelines.

need for reserach into nonbinary

Sex continues to play an important role as well as gender, Dodds says. Sex is not gender and both are important. As an adult female, herself, there are of course also transwomen.

She gives way to Nick Fletcher who asks her about changing rooms: would she be happy sharing changing rooms?

Waffles about the EHRC. Says she may already have been sharing changing rooms with transwomen.

Labour urge the govt to focus on research into non-binary identities.

she's smooshed 'non binary and intersex' into a category

now she's on intersex/DSDs

I hope Miriam pulls her up

She’s still banging on about intersex people.

Ms Dodds, intersex people are not non-binary people. Stop conflating the issue.

Gives way to Miriam Cates, who corrects her. Be clear: do not conflate genetic disorders with gender identity.

yay Miriam!

We must be so clear not to conflate genetic disorders with gender identities

AD is not happy. She is clear that she's not conflating the two.

Dodds denies conflating the two and says she has been explicit about the difference (she has not).