Times: Girl ‘driven out of school for questioning trans ideology’

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This seems to be a clear failure on the part of all adults involved, if what's reported here is accurate:

Girl ‘driven out of school for questioning trans ideology’

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/50aac934-d539-11ec-8585-951ab3afb4d2?shareToken=d55c6d8482ff6dde48eb9c33de693f54

That story feels under explored to say the least. More like gossip than journalism.

I see that, although it will have been lawyered. And they've - rightly - gone to great lengths to make sure the school can't be identified.

Yes I see that. I guess I feel if nothing in the story can be identified or verified, it ends up just being an anecdote.

That story feels under explored to say the least. More like gossip than journalism.

I don't disagree but the times doesn't have a history of making up stories and it would be virtually impossible to put more meat on the bones without access to information about incidents amongst children that it would never be appropriate to print.

The fact a teacher backs up her story says a lot to me.

It’s been anonymised for the girl’s safety. No reason to think it’s been made up.

The story was first published by TransgenderTrend here:

www.transgendertrend.com/transgender-ideology-in-schools/

It sounds as though the girl is in the middle of studying for exams and I would guess does not want to be identified.

Thanks Resister for the share token

I read this the other day and was horrified. So glad that The Times ran it. And obviously verified it before publishing it.

This was one sentence that struck me. ‘ When I questioned that, she said it wasn’t an issue of semantics. She said trans people don’t have basic human rights in this country. ‘

Who was this Baroness? Hunt?? What on earth is this Baroness doing spreading propaganda in schools? I think a letter to another Baroness is in order to have this addressed. A member of the HoLs stating trans people don’t have basic human rights in the UK? And at a school telling young people this?

What ‘basic human rights’ do trans people not have???

And the student apologised for questioning this speaker? So, a thoughtful and considered student.

FFS. Well done to that young woman to question what she was hearing if that was the answer to her question.

I do hope that she found a new sixth form and does well. But what on earth was the school thinking to allow this to have happened.

(If you are reading this, good luck with your A levels and I am so sorry this happened to you. The pursuit of truth and honesty is also worthy, and education should be supporting this. You have been very much let down.)

That is chilling.

Baroness Hunt = Ruth Hunt, former leader of stonewall

The behaviour of the teachers is so worrying. Their inability to challenge the other girls and complete acceptance that that act of asking questions and putting an alternate point of view is "transphobia" gives a frightening message to other children.
I later learned that the girl had pointed out that there was another person in the House of Lords, ‘Baroness B’ who held different views to ‘Baroness A’ and she wanted to know if they had debates or arguments about their differing positions The girl apparently used the phrase "respectfully disagreed" .

There will have been staff there so the school knows what was said. If the girl had been rude or offensive then she should have been excluded. But she wasn't - she was allowed to remain in school. She would have been able to legally challenge an exclusion for "wrong" reasons.
This is an appalling way for a school to behave - essentially allowing mob rule and bullying..

That is a depressing read. The school has lost its senses. How they could allow the mob hounding of a student is disturbing.

Sadly there are a number of Baronesses it could have been - hunt, barker or Brinton spring immediately to mind

and yes the school behaved utterly cravenly

Then you have Michael Cashman in the Gay Times today banging away on the drum, insisting it is a “categorical lie” that trans equality (as he conceives of it) diminishes rights or safety for women or girls.

Let’s see... This young woman doesn’t believe that people can change sex. She said so, as is her right. But the perception that trans equality is more important than her right to see the world through her own eyes leads to her being surrounded by a ranting, bullying mob.

Still certain of your position, Mr Cashman? What will be enough to inch you away from it? Does a girl have to be beaten? Or will you believe you have achieved your goals when everyone who disagrees with you is silent?

Yes, I did wonder.

Cashman quote this morning: ‘none of us have anything to fear from the equal protection of the law and the equal obligation to the law.’

Quite true.

I suspect Barker more than Hunt to be honest. Hunt has been very quiet on trans related issues since joining the HoL which suggests to me that the whole thing was a massive grift

Doesn't the school have a duty of care towards the girl? Having caused such a ruckus are they not now almost morally obliged to bring in someone with opposing views? So maybe another Baroness should be paying them a visit and giving them a talk.

We have freedom of speech here still - it should be upheld. And the girls taught tolerance - regardless of their views. Now that would be a win.

Yes, the total silence from Hunt seems telling.

sadly not unusual

I am sure it will come out what school and Baroness it was. And rightly so.

The school definitely need to educate the girls that gender critical views are lawful to hold. One doesn't have to believe people can change sex...FFS these kids will be at Uni soon and should be able to see the truth in front of them, its so depressing they have been led to believe utter falsehoods.

Sadly I have no trouble believing this. My experience with our local secondary is to banish children to isolation (or library) at the drop of a hat. I am also minded of Lisa Keogh (albeit a university and not a school). Is there any parent on this thread who feels their child would be able to question trans ideology in their secondary school?

The response from the school reads really really badly.

I'm sure it will come out. My worry would be the effect on this young lady as she begins sitting her A level examinations.

Good god, surely there needs to be some action taken in light of this.
Was it something the Baroness said that incited such a reaction?
It's like Red Guard / Cultural Revolution behaviour.
Trans ideology doesn't belong in schools.