Times: Girl ‘driven out of school for questioning trans ideology’

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This seems to be a clear failure on the part of all adults involved, if what's reported here is accurate:

Girl ‘driven out of school for questioning trans ideology’

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/50aac934-d539-11ec-8585-951ab3afb4d2?shareToken=d55c6d8482ff6dde48eb9c33de693f54

The school didn't just invite one speaker, apparently they also had an earlier visit from Mermaids and they knew students picked up on that. If the school only invite one side in, if the adults accept that there are no other legitimate views worth listening to, then why would the pupils think any differently?

The school failed by not disciplining the bullies.

I bet this has happened elsewhere and if it has not it soon will.

I notice Matt Chorley has the Education Secretary on his radio show this week and is asking on twitter for question people want to ask him. I am not anonymous on twitter. If anyone else want to ask what proactively the education department is doing to protect girls, and those of either sex with gender critical views. And why he think transgirls should keep girls waiting whilst they change for PE (he said let transgirls use the girls' changing rooms firs ton their own - whilst girls stand around waiting presumably!)

twitter.com/MattChorley/status/1526210354694479873

"Exam question: what should be done about exam questions?
Or any other aspect of education?
What would you ask education secretary Nadim Zahawi?"

The show is on Friday.

The Times article is by Nicola Woolcock, Education Editor.

Bloody hell. I'm very sorry to hear this.

She said trans people don’t have basic human rights in this country.

The adults feeding these outrageous lies to gullible, ignorant teenagers should be held accountable. I hope this woman is eventually named and shamed, if it's ever possible to do so without harming the girl at the centre of this story.

Lil OJ trying to get hold of ‘the other side of the story’ and have the school named in the press. That would put this young woman in danger. Very poor form.

I doubt he cares.

Some TRA madness for you.

Lil OJ trying to get hold of ‘the other side of the story’ and have the school named in the press. That would put this young woman in danger. Very poor form.

There is no way on earth he doesn't know he would be harming an-already traumatised teenager. Presumably he thinks she deserves it. That's low even by his standards.

Some of the comments under his post are horrific. I shouldn't be surprised but still, the vehemence and spite. Numbers of posters saying it's an invented lie, despite the fact that the Times article clearly says that they spoke directly to the girl and a teacher at the school. Then there are the posters who are gleefully saying that the girl deserved to be surrounded, shouted at and spit at because what she said was as bad as being a Nazi ffs.

The girl in question sounds incredibly articulate and intelligent from the quotes in the article. I really hope she's getting good support and will be able to sit her exams without additional stress.

I’m really fucked off with all the GC=Nazi shit. It’s dehumanising. If someone is named a Nazi (on whatever spurious evidence) then they are fair game for bullying/ harassment/ violence. And I think the Nazi designation is what Judith Butler would call a “speech act”- because something or someone has been given a name, they literally become that thing in the minds of those around them. (Lord knows if I’ve got that right, Butler has such a non-committal way of writing)

GCs aren’t denying the 60 girls the right to free speech. I for one would merely encourage them to engage in reasonable debate, one on one, rather than orchestrating a physical pile on.

What standards? I have been puzzling for while to account for the sheer vitriol and out right hatred some of these trans rights nutters display. It only makes sense to me if you would regard yourself as completely right and the other lot as completely wrong-wrong in the sense of being actual Nazi's in which case the need for common courtesy and decency not only goes out of the window but you are now under an obligation to be as horrible as possible. Suppose you were wandering round Berchtesgaden with a sniper rifle and a crystal ball circa 1938-you would take a pot shot at Hitler. wouldn't you?

I think it's performative to attain acceptance, adulation and 'likes' from their peers and they feed off each other. It's self perpetuating. It needs sorting out and unwinding, I thought it seemed to be tailing off but looks like no such luck..

This.

There is literally no other debate I can think of where the adults - responsible for safeguarding this child (which they failed at and should be reported) - would bow to mob rule. They allowed a child to be bullied to the point of hyperventilating and them feeling they had to put her in the library for her own safety (so punishing the victim there) and ultimately allowing her to be hounded from the school.

This child has been bullied out of that school in the middle of her A-levels - this bullying was sanctioned and aided by the adults in charge. Her mental health has clearly been damaged, as well as her belief in critical thinking and free speech and justice.

The teachers who allowed this to happen should be held to account.

Appalling.

I also disagree that it will harm that student having this come out - it might harm the other students and the school. The student herself no doubt will gain some comfort from the fact that thousands upon thousands of women agree with her and that it's obvious to anyone who isn't a bully that she didn't do anything wrong. She also spoke to the Times, which suggests she is not against this story coming out.

Quote from the article:
"The girl told The Times that she would have completed her A-levels at the school had it not been for the incident in October. “It made me think I was mad,” she said. “Otherwise how could people turn on me so bitterly?”"

Hopefully having JKR supporting her and so many, many others will make her understand that she really isn't mad.

She should not have been forced out of her school.

I would donate 100s of pounds to any legal action this girl wishes to take.

A child should not be bullied out of her school and have her education forcibly disrupted because she believes in biology FFS.

This account of mob bullying and the teaching body's lack of response is of no surprise to me at all. Mine and my child's own experiences have left me with a cold feeling of dread about where all this is headed. I've told my child to keep their head down and concentrate on their work and lessons, they'll be out of their soon enough.

It's the same at my DDs school. Which has a very high number of Muslim students - so there is a clear clash of beliefs right there as I know for a fact the parents would not accept mixed sex toilets but of course whether we'd be told is in question. Problem is, none of the parents want to speak up for fear their child will be targeted just as this girl was.

This story is bad enough - though not surprising - but something worse is going to happen unless teachers start to be held to account for pushing a political ideology and allowing bullying to go unchecked if its in the name of said political ideology.

Stonewall must be so proud of their little champions. They showed the way through the persecution of Dr. Stock who got no support from her employers or authorities. Here it is happening to a schoolgirl and she also was not supported, neither by staff or by her LEA or a government which appears to turn a blind eye to this issue.
They are all cowardly and impotent in the face of absurdity.

Nici HB whose tweet suggesting this poor girl is a nazi that @ScreamingMeMe has posted is a model for Boots No 7.

Seriously?!

Julie Bindel:

"I am in touch with the young woman who was bullied out of her 6th form school.
She considers that she is being bullied by Owen Jones as well. Nice journalism, much?"

twitter.com/bindelj/status/1526599080591429632?t=LlY77K9WLzg87KZImzejpQ&s=19

I think this is the same article but updated from this morning to include JKR:

JK Rowling defends girl ‘driven out of school for questioning trans ideology’

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/50aac934-d539-11ec-8585-951ab3afb4d2?shareToken=b5ddca103c14df325930f2698f9cc274

When I read this I felt sick. I've have been having looooong discussions with my kids about gender ideology and encouraging them to ask questions and challenge (respectfully) if they feel like something doesnt make sense or feels 'weird'.

This is a mass gang up in school - with teachers being petrified to put a stop to it. Where are the bloody adults in this?

Owen Jones Is A Bully is currently trending on twitter

I’d like to see the school named and shamed.

He's already written his story, drawn his conclusions, decided who the good and the bad guys are. Even if he finds that things happening exactly as put down in the Times article.

I used to like Owen Jones writing. Back when the Guardian was a serious newspaper and I could still read the print editions. When the comments were worth reading instead of not there at all most of the time.

How could anyone read this article and not feel anything but sympathy for the 'minority' involved.

Perhaps I've misjudged him and this will be a wake up call for him.He doesn't have to change his views but he has to realise whose been victimised in this.

The only people demonised as Nazis these days are feminists. The extremists like OJ and his coterie rarely (if ever) use the word "Nazi" to describe racists or Islamist terrorists or indeed actual Nazis. It's a word reserved entirely for a group of largely mild-mannered, peaceful, law-abiding women who sometimes meet up to defend their sex-based rights.

I think that probably tells you everything you need to know about these people.

And if it wasn't so sad, and so terrifying, it would be almost comical that OJ wants to talk to the 60 girls who shouted and spat at this girl. Yes, let's hear the bullies speak! The voice of bullies is so under-represented in the national media. Poor dears.