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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Transwoman claims Tampax have offered sponsorship

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DomesticatedZombie · 28/04/2022 18:32

Dylan, currently on 'Day 47 of being a girl' claims Tampax have been in touch.

www.instagram.com/p/CbiQWjUpXXd/

Why?

'Dylan was using a public restroom when a fellow woman called out if she had a tampon, Dylan shyly replying ‘no’.
Afterwards, she decided to buy some to keep in the house and in her purse for all her girlfriends, ending the video with “women support women.” It seemed that Tampax were quite interested in working with Dylan afterwards. What an incredible outcome!'

www.boredpanda.com/trans-tiktoker-documents-journey

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puffalo · 29/04/2022 00:47

Also, one last point to add-

All of us here in heterosexual relationships obviously have a partner who is male. In our entire time dating, and in my entire x number of years dating other men, never has there been a time where my partner has brought spare tampons out with him incase I would need them.

So I completely fail to see why someone who doesn’t have a period would bring tampons with them for other people. It’s like a non smoker buying a packet of cigarettes and bringing them out with them every day on the off chance a smoking friend needs a cigarette?

Why would you? At least in the circumstance of it being your partner he at least knows you and it wouldn’t be weird at all to ask him for a tampon if you were caught out. Most people find it awkward enough asking a stranger for directions, never mind something which makes most women feel self conscious and delicate because of its intimate nature.

Nothing about the situation makes sense, other than it seeming like a weird fetishisation of genuine womanhood.

TheBiologyStupid · 29/04/2022 00:54

puffalo: "The entire situation seems completely bizarre and just reminds me of that awful person from a few years ago (their name completely escapes me, the one who wanted a bikini wax despite not fully transitioning and was all over Twitter)."

That was the delightful Jonathan Yaniv, IIRC from Helen Joyce's excellent Trans.

Pallisers · 29/04/2022 01:04

puffalo · 29/04/2022 00:47

Also, one last point to add-

All of us here in heterosexual relationships obviously have a partner who is male. In our entire time dating, and in my entire x number of years dating other men, never has there been a time where my partner has brought spare tampons out with him incase I would need them.

So I completely fail to see why someone who doesn’t have a period would bring tampons with them for other people. It’s like a non smoker buying a packet of cigarettes and bringing them out with them every day on the off chance a smoking friend needs a cigarette?

Why would you? At least in the circumstance of it being your partner he at least knows you and it wouldn’t be weird at all to ask him for a tampon if you were caught out. Most people find it awkward enough asking a stranger for directions, never mind something which makes most women feel self conscious and delicate because of its intimate nature.

Nothing about the situation makes sense, other than it seeming like a weird fetishisation of genuine womanhood.

yeah this. Any man who carries tampons around with him just in case a woman needs them is a weirdo.

My dh has often gone out and bought sanpro for me and our two daughters with not a thought but having them with him just in case - we'd all think he was a freak - but we don't because he isn't like that. He is a man who understands that women need sanpro and ... like end of story he isn't part of that "part of the process" shit.

oakleaffy · 29/04/2022 01:09

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It’s definitely a rather “unhealthy “ interest some have.
To the point of obsession with some.
MEN struate??
in their heads, maybe.

puffalo · 29/04/2022 01:10

TheBiologyStupid · 29/04/2022 00:54

puffalo: "The entire situation seems completely bizarre and just reminds me of that awful person from a few years ago (their name completely escapes me, the one who wanted a bikini wax despite not fully transitioning and was all over Twitter)."

That was the delightful Jonathan Yaniv, IIRC from Helen Joyce's excellent Trans.

Yes, that’s exactly who it was!

I’m quite proud of myself for managing to forget that awful creature’s name in the first place. Some of the things he said/did…

oakleaffy · 29/04/2022 01:20

notangelinajolie · 29/04/2022 00:22

The thing is Dylan .. (I know you are reading) women don’t call out for tampons in woman’s toilets. Least of all to random people.
Nope never happened to me in all my 58 years.

They absolutely don’t.
If one is caught out, loo roll or a tissue suffice til one can get to a shop.
I’ve never been asked, nor asked myself.
It’s also bloody insulting that certain “TW” say they have period pains.

What an insult to women who suffer, sometimes almost passing out with pain.

oakleaffy · 29/04/2022 01:23

puffalo · 29/04/2022 01:10

Yes, that’s exactly who it was!

I’m quite proud of myself for managing to forget that awful creature’s name in the first place. Some of the things he said/did…

That person with the quoted name has done awful things. Nasty abuser.

puffalo · 29/04/2022 01:32

oakleaffy · 29/04/2022 01:09

It’s definitely a rather “unhealthy “ interest some have.
To the point of obsession with some.
MEN struate??
in their heads, maybe.

This is what probably annoys me the most about the movement, in all honesty.

The obsession and unhealthy obsessions that a lot of transwomen have with “woman” things, but it’s incredibly stereotypical.

It’s always an obsession about menstruation (which they can never experience so instead they turn it into something cutesy rather than what it actually is like for thousands of women- painful, draining and something that makes us self conscious and hormonal).

Or it’s fashion. The obsession with wearing skimpy clothes where no one would actually wear them (see Dylan’s Instagram where they go hiking in a leather skirt…). Pink glittery everything. Dressing like a Barbie doll. Now, there’s nothing wrong with liking pink and glitter, but it doesn’t seem authentic to me. If I was to go out in skimpy clothes like that for a hike then I’d be told that I was leading guys on and “asking for it”, but it’s totally inspiring for Dylan to wear said outfit.

Or it’s makeup. Absolutely piled on and then tonnes of references to how they look better than biological women. Like it’s a competition. I love a full face of makeup, but it doesn’t make me any more/less a woman depending on whether I’m wearing it or not. Same goes for fake boobs and other cosmetic surgeries. If Dylan gets surgery they’ll be told they “slaaaaayyyy”, but if I got a BBL and a boob job I’d probably be told how fake I am.

None of them are obsessed with the fact so many women can’t afford to work when they have children due to the cost of childcare. They don’t care about the gender wage gap. They pretend to care about the attacks on women by men, but only because they can twist it around back on themselves by saying they also get attacked by men and that’s why they need to use the female bathroom. The list goes on.

I genuinely did not care 5-10 years ago about people transitioning. I was completely for it. I want people to live a life where they can be their true authentic selves. But clearly accepting that you are different is difficult, apparently, and it’s much easier to force others to change to fit around you than to figure out how you can fit into a world with others while being true to who you are.

The issues that transwomen have would be easily solved if they simply accepted that they are not women in the biological sense, and instead campaigned to have safe spaces for their own minority group, rather than infringing on a group who have been historically terrorised by men (and still are, frankly).

If you’re trans and want to use the toilet? Campaign for trans exclusive bathroom facilities.
If you’re trans and want to compete in sports? Campaign for trans exclusive sporting events.
If you’re trans and you want to wear makeup/dress feminine? That’s totally cool.
If you’re trans and want to get involved with biological women’s issues and try to help? Great, but act as an ally. We will return the favour, as an ally, as respect works both ways- but don’t try to assert ownership over something that you’ve never lived through or experienced.

It’s a lot more complex being a woman than having a fucking tampon or not.

oakleaffy · 29/04/2022 01:40

puffalo · 29/04/2022 01:32

This is what probably annoys me the most about the movement, in all honesty.

The obsession and unhealthy obsessions that a lot of transwomen have with “woman” things, but it’s incredibly stereotypical.

It’s always an obsession about menstruation (which they can never experience so instead they turn it into something cutesy rather than what it actually is like for thousands of women- painful, draining and something that makes us self conscious and hormonal).

Or it’s fashion. The obsession with wearing skimpy clothes where no one would actually wear them (see Dylan’s Instagram where they go hiking in a leather skirt…). Pink glittery everything. Dressing like a Barbie doll. Now, there’s nothing wrong with liking pink and glitter, but it doesn’t seem authentic to me. If I was to go out in skimpy clothes like that for a hike then I’d be told that I was leading guys on and “asking for it”, but it’s totally inspiring for Dylan to wear said outfit.

Or it’s makeup. Absolutely piled on and then tonnes of references to how they look better than biological women. Like it’s a competition. I love a full face of makeup, but it doesn’t make me any more/less a woman depending on whether I’m wearing it or not. Same goes for fake boobs and other cosmetic surgeries. If Dylan gets surgery they’ll be told they “slaaaaayyyy”, but if I got a BBL and a boob job I’d probably be told how fake I am.

None of them are obsessed with the fact so many women can’t afford to work when they have children due to the cost of childcare. They don’t care about the gender wage gap. They pretend to care about the attacks on women by men, but only because they can twist it around back on themselves by saying they also get attacked by men and that’s why they need to use the female bathroom. The list goes on.

I genuinely did not care 5-10 years ago about people transitioning. I was completely for it. I want people to live a life where they can be their true authentic selves. But clearly accepting that you are different is difficult, apparently, and it’s much easier to force others to change to fit around you than to figure out how you can fit into a world with others while being true to who you are.

The issues that transwomen have would be easily solved if they simply accepted that they are not women in the biological sense, and instead campaigned to have safe spaces for their own minority group, rather than infringing on a group who have been historically terrorised by men (and still are, frankly).

If you’re trans and want to use the toilet? Campaign for trans exclusive bathroom facilities.
If you’re trans and want to compete in sports? Campaign for trans exclusive sporting events.
If you’re trans and you want to wear makeup/dress feminine? That’s totally cool.
If you’re trans and want to get involved with biological women’s issues and try to help? Great, but act as an ally. We will return the favour, as an ally, as respect works both ways- but don’t try to assert ownership over something that you’ve never lived through or experienced.

It’s a lot more complex being a woman than having a fucking tampon or not.

Spot on.
One never sees a TW in long modest dresses or lisle stockings or directoire knickers.

It’s nearly always stuff that is satin or lacy and reminiscent of porn mags of the 1980’s.

A parody of what they think a woman is.

I don’t care if people want to play dress up, but keep the hell out of women’s lavatories, prisons, and sports.

As you say, Campaign for trans only spaces.

StorminNorma · 29/04/2022 02:18

I've never asked anyone for a tampon but if I were to cast my eyes around the room for a person to address such a question to they would not linger on Dylan.

Somuddled · 29/04/2022 03:03

I love the notion that men have sanitary products just in case women need them. Trying to picture a world where I stroll up to Ian in compliance and ask what he has, he pulls out his supply and we ascertain that even though he has super max tampons and light pads, neither suit my needs so he recommends I check with Matt in HR as he is always good for Tenna pants. Fairly confident that even if this did happen I would not be putting any of thoes items on or in my genitals.

Kanaloa · 29/04/2022 05:45

Somuddled · 29/04/2022 03:03

I love the notion that men have sanitary products just in case women need them. Trying to picture a world where I stroll up to Ian in compliance and ask what he has, he pulls out his supply and we ascertain that even though he has super max tampons and light pads, neither suit my needs so he recommends I check with Matt in HR as he is always good for Tenna pants. Fairly confident that even if this did happen I would not be putting any of thoes items on or in my genitals.

Makes you wonder too if they carry round everything in the hopes or concern that someone might need it at any point. Painkillers for those who suffer migraines? Wet wipes and anti perspirant for people who have hot flushes/excessive sweating? Vicks vapor rub in case I have a cold?

Or, like everything else in life, do they expect adults to cater for their own personal needs independently?

NotBadConsidering · 29/04/2022 06:02

Meghan Murphy was permanently banned from Twitter for saying about Yaniv “that’s him”.

Yaniv. The predator who talks to young girls about periods. The racist who targeted immigrant women to wax his balls. Referring to him as him got a woman banned from Twitter permanently. 😡

SunshineCake · 29/04/2022 06:18

Yesterday I read about trainee midwives being taught about trans women giving birth. After reading about some NHS literature being changed from breast feeding to chest feeding I just fear for the common sense of future generations but more so for the people coming up with this nonsense.

it must be awful to feel you are in the wrong body but why try and wipe out the autonomy of the gender you say you want to be ?

Nellodee · 29/04/2022 06:33

I did once know a very non pervy man who carried a tampon around with him. He identified as a Bear Grylls kind of character and has done a lot of hitch hiking round various places. Apparently, tampons are a very compact and efficient way of carrying a supply of kindling in order to start your own fire out in the wilderness. It was in a little bag along with compass, waterproof matches, etc. He also always has a couple of magic tricks on him. He was occasionally a hero, as he also carried a Swiss Army knife, sewing kit, superglue, bike pump, etc. He was definitely the man you would ask if you needed something specific and slightly unusual whilst out and about (though he wasn’t great on stationery items) No-one ever, to my knowledge, asked him for a tampon. I only know he carried a tampon as we would sometimes ask him what he had in his bag, as it was different each time and always very interesting.

He certainly want a common kind of character, though I suppose you might meet a few more people like him if you went hitch hiking in the outback.

Dylan doesn’t strike me as the hitch hiking in the outback kind, though I’m sure if Dylan did, Dylan would be fabulous in their pleather skirt.

EmpressaurusWitchDoesntBurn · 29/04/2022 07:08

WeRTheOnesWeHaveBeenWaitingFor · 28/04/2022 22:00

Women are generally too socially conditioned to feel shame about tampons so don’t ask strangers. Also why is it ‘girlhood’ and not ‘women-hood’ on Dylan’s instagram? Who says ‘girlhood’ she’s a fully grown adult FFS.

’Girls’ are young human females - it sounds silly enough when adult women call themselves girls but for a bloke to do it is creepy. And that’s without even starting on the tampon.

bellinisurge · 29/04/2022 07:18

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bellinisurge · 29/04/2022 07:27

@Nellodee , there is a number of suggested prepper uses for tampons (I'm a prepper). None of them involves hanging around women's public toilets looking for young girls to validate you.

Helleofabore · 29/04/2022 07:33

Well! You learn something new everyday. I was going to suggest that maybe Dyl got nosebleeds or that they wanted to practice first aid. But fire starting ….. that is a new one. Maybe it is more environmentally friendly than the hexamine cube we carry for the purpose.

I wouldn’t want to mention why else a male would want to carry around tampons.

user750 · 29/04/2022 07:47

DH has on occasion taken tampons out with him. Together with a miniature of vodka or a bit of paraffin makes an amazing firelighter.

nzborn · 29/04/2022 08:41

when I land on a toilet and find out too late theirs no toilet paper it's embarrassing enough to ask a stranger to pass some under the door.

I can't ever ever imagine asking someone for sanitary products if caught short like someone else said you make do with the toilet paper till you get home or to a shop.

Mandodari · 29/04/2022 08:58

@Nellodee
. It was in a little bag along with compass, waterproof matches,

I skim read that and thought it read compact ,waterproof mascara- I was desperate to find out why they were needed in the wild 😆

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WellThatsMeScrewed · 29/04/2022 09:06

To Men & transwomen: I will NEVER ask you for sanpro. I don’t know if any woman who would. So I would save your money. or if you want to help donate sanpro to your local food bank.

TitsInAbsentia · 29/04/2022 09:20

MzHz · 28/04/2022 23:56

Gah!

that’s what we’re supposed to do?

53 years of this and I’m still getting this girling wrong

😑

Ah it's ok @MzHz just transmogrify into a male for a week and than transmogrify back to being female and you can start all over again - voila!

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