Deleted threads

[jeffgoldblum]

Hi , I've noticed a lot of deleted threads today on this board.
Glitch with my app or something more insidious?

Yes. there was one which I thought would be deleted. I copied some of the posted evidence of a very dodgy attitude to children and their welfare. One or two excellent posts as well. I presume somebody didn't want the sunlight on them. Or at least without the mealy mouthed protestation that they didn't mean what they said/say and wrote/write at all.

Obvious, despite words to the contrary, some characters believe very much that some should get to blur safeguarding without protest. And, get a free pass to boot.

I share your disgust. I transcribed the whole of a piece of writing from a photograph for that thread. There's something about transcribing that makes you really focus on what is being said, beyond just reading it. I'm just glad I saved the text because it's done now and I never have to type those revolting words again.

There was nothing in that thread that is not already in the public domain.

Also furious.

To those that reported it, we see you.

Another one fuming about the deleted thread. A person with that history being invited to speak in numerous secondary schools is a real Safeguarding concern. At times like this it makes me appreciate Twitter.

Absolutely this.

This is a parenting site. Most of us are mothers. Many others are teachers, carers, HCP ... or just people who understand that safeguarding is everyone's responsibility - including Mumsnet's

We have to be able to talk about safeguarding risks that we see. We have to be able to present evidence in the face of denial and accusations of pearl clutching hysteria.

Otherwise we can't safeguard children. It's that simple.

This is a really bad look for a parenting site.

I'm really sorry that you had transcribed that @LangClegsInSpace. I wasn't sure if you had. I'm kicking myself for not archiving

I think some people got a screenshot of the whole thread. There was a time lag between a deletion message and it disappearing.

Did the thread about the new Mermaids guidance that goes against EHRC guidance get zapped?

No.

MNHQ, we need safeguarding experts like Lang Cleg.

There is so much contradictory advice about safeguarding at the moment.

If a teacher had concerns about my young child, I’d want them to tell the safeguarding lead at her school. If they thought she was at immediate risk of harm, they should call the police.

I’d be very concerned if an adult was colluding with my child to keep a secret from me. I’d see that as a massive red flag. I’d also find it unacceptable for my children’s school to make key decisions on her behalf without talking to me first. Social transitioning, for example, would be a big step.

I’m even more concerned about online support groups for children, especially those which encourage children to keep them a secret from parents. Some of these sites have “escape buttons”, so the child can switch windows instantly if an adult comes into the room.

These groups could be a good source of advice and support for children with abusive parents, but they could be a source of misguided advice or something more sinister. How can a child know who they’re really talking to?

Why’s that @Andersonpeak? Being LGBT doesn’t make you a groomer.

It will be interesting to see if anyone has screenshot those posts in the very brief time they were online. If they then post them on Twitter claiming they are representative of MumsNet, then well, yet another false flag attack.

I saw the deleted post, is it because they mentioned lbsoftkt*k?

Oops

l~bsoft~kt~k

It was more than that, @Heatherz.

Homophobic or transphobic posts aren’t allowed on Mumsnet and are usually deleted very swiftly. However, the same can’t be said of the utter cesspit that is Twitter.

This ought to give our Twitter monitors pause for thought, but it never seems to.

Hmm, this thread seems to have disappeared too:

AIBU to think that women’s rape crisis therapy should NOT be mixed-sex?

No it’s still there:

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4540981-aibu-to-think-that-womens-rape-crisis-therapy-should-not-be-mixed-sex

Thanks. I keep getting an error message when I try to open it. Good to know it is still live though so I will keep trying. Thanks.

Another one bites the dust - the Barbie Kardashian thread gone now. How predictable.

In the deletion message, MN claim that it's partly because it is a thread about an ongoing case, but surely there are other threads about ongoing legal trials - the Allison Bailey case, the Amber Heard/ Johnny Depp one? They are allowed stand. Not to mention the ongoing case is in another jurisdiction....

It does seem as though MN just don't want us pesky women getting too near the truth about this bullshit.

Why is a thread about Barbie Kardashian, gone? Barbie Kardashian is an adult, and was stated to be a danger to women by the Irish police. Although the Gardaí did (could?) not truthfully state BK's correct biological sex, thus failing to properly warn Irish women.

To this day, the Irish state does not seem to have much concern about the brutalisation of Irish women. Current or historic.

I have had a peaking experience in this context which has nothing to do with the gender identity ideology in itself, but much to do with realising the contempt with which the female sex is still widely regarded, even in countries where laws are now comparatively fair.

Not sure about the correct word to use here, so I chose 'contempt', because misogyny is both too strong and not quite right as it's not active hatred from most, but just a general refusal to take female people seriously.

What I see so much, especially online, is a bundle of beliefs about the female sex which equate to it being ignored, its rights being interpreted as 'hoarding rights', its complaints being interpreted as 'first world problems', its role being seen as one for being either an applauding audience for brave trans individuals or general support humans for the rest of the world. To do the unpaid work and to be unnoticed for it.

What peaked me was seeing so many young feminists doing this. It makes me so tired and defeated.

The BK thread is gone again, I find it interesting how MN states that thread about current court cases are not allowed - but there is a long standing thread about the Amber Heard case, and the Allison Bailey case. So some are ok and some aren't.

Not to mention the BK case is in a different jurisdiction. More bullshit from MN.

nepeta

Not sure about the correct word to use here, so I chose 'contempt', because misogyny is both too strong and not quite right as it's not active hatred from most, but just a general refusal to take female people seriously.

Yes, exactly. As someone said a while ago, the fact that as a society we believe men who claim to be women more than the actual women that claim they are not, tells us where the priorities lie.

And it's not with women or girls.