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Starmer: biology matters

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tabbycatstripy · 31/03/2022 20:03

“Biology matters, and for the vast majority of women that’s what matters. Nobody is quarrelling with that. But there’s no denying there are also a small number of people who struggle with their gender identity, and they go through a difficult time...”

Went on to say that three times. Almost exactly what Rachel Reeves said: “the vast majority of women” - in other words, there are women who are not female.

Robotic performance aside, it’s at least better.

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Chrysanthemum5 · 31/03/2022 23:04

I do not care. That's it, lifelong Labour voter but I see now that they are as misogynistic as the tories. Really have no idea which party I will vote for now

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Joystir59 · 01/04/2022 09:47

[quote Pixiedust1234]@Joystir59 - I don't really trust any of them but at least Boris knows what an adult female is. I don't want men gaslighting me that they are really women. #nothankyou[/quote]
Regardless of how the Tories actually treat real women and children by forcing so many of them to live in poverty with inadequate maternity care food and fuel poverty, the lack of funding for dv services and shelters?

FemaleAndLearning · 01/04/2022 15:39

I watched the full clip of Starmer. What an embarrassment. Yet again we are talking about women but he talks about gender identity for nearly 3 minutes. Just because he used the word biology does not mean he is a friend of women. Why can't they just be honest. A woman is an adult human female but we have a law that says men can be women so yes I this case some women can have a penis because we made a total cock up and didn't think this through.

Pixiedust1234 · 01/04/2022 16:29

@Joystir59- what dv shelters? What dv support? "Women" with penises are in there stopping biological women from accessing them due to many reasons. Try reading a few threads here so you can understand that, right now, having the politicians and lawmakers know what an actual woman is the main and only goal. Got to get the foundations solid first before dealing with anything else and Kier and Co won't make them solid. Always voted Labour but not now. It socks.

Pixiedust1234 · 01/04/2022 16:30

And please define a real woman. Starmer and his cronies cant.

Abhannmor · 01/04/2022 16:38

Keir Theory is tacking this way because of the May elections. But this madness has some way to go

GibbonsGoatsGibbons · 01/04/2022 17:08

He looked like he was on pain of death not to stray from the prescribed text which made him look like a duplicitous idiot - pretty sure he's not actually an idiot...

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