M&S Reviews

[DevonTF]

Looking at period pants - and the first review is this.

Clearly getting a sexual thrill - and M&S have given it a platform. I reported, but still live - so I guess M&S are happily going along with this.

He means spaff in his pants.

Have also downvoted and reported.

Some men do enjoy wearing diapers/ nappies as a fetish as well. Could be that.

Review still there, but at 1060 down-votes now.

Here’s the email. I hope I’ve cropped anything identifying out.
I think it’s a generic email, because it doesn’t really read well in a fetish way. Unless it is a personal reply. Interested to hear of anyone else has had a reply.

@DobbyTheHouseElk

Here’s the email. I hope I’ve cropped anything identifying out. I think it’s a generic email, because it doesn’t really read well in a fetish way. Unless it is a personal reply. Interested to hear of anyone else has had a reply.

So if they follow that logic they should be okay with GC MNers posting many, many reviews where we are 'speak out' in a way that we 'feel comfortable about being [our]selves'. Open season in the men's underwear department then.....

Jesus that email! What about the inclusion of women? What about diversity across pretty much any group that isn't male fetishists? How about ensuring the comfort of young girls who may be researching period pants as an easy transition into menstruation? How about listening to those of us who speak up and say "no thank you"?

I’m so angry. M&S are now a fetish brand. I must tell my elderly mother.

Definitely open season on the mens lingerie dept. You’ll find it hidden away in the menswear section at the bottom. Underwear.

Unlike the female lingerie dept which isn’t attached to womenswear at all.

In fact I wonder if M&S haven’t been like this for years. Thinking back to a town I lived in, in the 80’s. There were two M&S shops. One was womenswear and food hall.
The other across town was menswear and womens lingerie!!! I’ve just realised.

@DobbyTheHouseElk

Here’s the email. I hope I’ve cropped anything identifying out. I think it’s a generic email, because it doesn’t really read well in a fetish way. Unless it is a personal reply. Interested to hear of anyone else has had a reply.

Oh wow. That's insane. They are going into bat for the flashers and pant pissers.

Lauren Harvey appears to be saying that M & S have no boundaries, no understanding of safety and safeguarding, let alone how women feel as long as their customers feel comfortable in being themselves.

It's like an open invitation to every sex offender / predator in the country. Still, if that's their preferred core demographic going forward, it's up to them.

I'm interested to know where they would actually draw the line of 'inclusivity' then? Is that something they can clarify?

I know you have no idea about this, but women looking for period pants don't want to read a pervert's story about how he gets off on them.

First of all, as far as sexual fetishes go, wearing women's clothes and urinating into them is a really mild and vanilla one. There seems to be a lot of anger over this, and I'm not sure why. There's certainly no evidence that he's urinating himself in public, and no evidence that he's urinating on any else's clothing; just his own.

The second point is that I think a lot of people are reading stuff into this, which is why calling him a "pervert" is a tad extreme. We know he is a cross-dressing man, and we know he sometimes wets himself. However, he hasn't indicated this is a sexual thing (there is no mention of sexual arousal, or sex, anywhere in the review). Even if the cross dressing is a sexual thing for him, he hasn't indicated that wetting himself is part of the fetish- he might actually genuinely be incontinent.

I am a bit surprised that M&S would allow a review like this, but I don't find it to be particularly extreme or upsetting.

It's amazing how people supporting the ideology can end up defending rapists, sex offenders in spas, and perverts. And yet still think that they might be on the right side of history.

That's not true. I would never support someone imposing their fetish onto others, and I would never support a rapist, pervert, or sex offender in a spa.

@greasyshoes

I know you have no idea about this, but women looking for period pants don't want to read a pervert's story about how he gets off on them.

First of all, as far as sexual fetishes go, wearing women's clothes and urinating into them is a really mild and vanilla one. There seems to be a lot of anger over this, and I'm not sure why. There's certainly no evidence that he's urinating himself in public, and no evidence that he's urinating on any else's clothing; just his own.

The second point is that I think a lot of people are reading stuff into this, which is why calling him a "pervert" is a tad extreme. We know he is a cross-dressing man, and we know he sometimes wets himself. However, he hasn't indicated this is a sexual thing (there is no mention of sexual arousal, or sex, anywhere in the review). Even if the cross dressing is a sexual thing for him, he hasn't indicated that wetting himself is part of the fetish- he might actually genuinely be incontinent.

I am a bit surprised that M&S would allow a review like this, but I don't find it to be particularly extreme or upsetting.

It's amazing how people supporting the ideology can end up defending rapists, sex offenders in spas, and perverts. And yet still think that they might be on the right side of history.

That's not true. I would never support someone imposing their fetish onto others, and I would never support a rapist, pervert, or sex offender in a spa.

He's imposing his fetish on others by posting that review.

@greasyshoes

I know you have no idea about this, but women looking for period pants don't want to read a pervert's story about how he gets off on them.

First of all, as far as sexual fetishes go, wearing women's clothes and urinating into them is a really mild and vanilla one. There seems to be a lot of anger over this, and I'm not sure why. There's certainly no evidence that he's urinating himself in public, and no evidence that he's urinating on any else's clothing; just his own.

The second point is that I think a lot of people are reading stuff into this, which is why calling him a "pervert" is a tad extreme. We know he is a cross-dressing man, and we know he sometimes wets himself. However, he hasn't indicated this is a sexual thing (there is no mention of sexual arousal, or sex, anywhere in the review). Even if the cross dressing is a sexual thing for him, he hasn't indicated that wetting himself is part of the fetish- he might actually genuinely be incontinent.

I am a bit surprised that M&S would allow a review like this, but I don't find it to be particularly extreme or upsetting.

It's amazing how people supporting the ideology can end up defending rapists, sex offenders in spas, and perverts. And yet still think that they might be on the right side of history.

That's not true. I would never support someone imposing their fetish onto others, and I would never support a rapist, pervert, or sex offender in a spa.

Why the fuck does he have to leave a review on the M and S website though? On a specific product that young girls could be looking at for their own menstrual needs?

Either he knows full well that all sorts of women, including girls, will read his review. Or he hasnt even thought about the fact that all sorts of women, including girls, will read his review. Either is grim.

I can't believe you are defending it tbh. Honestly, some of the stuff people defend on this forum is just disgusting.

He's imposing his fetish on others by posting that review.

Not any more than seeing a gay relationship on TV, or seeing a gay pride parade in public, is gay people imposing their sexuality onto me, which they aren't.

Seeing something is seeing something. Having something imposed onto you is something else altogether.

Even if the cross dressing is a sexual thing for him, he hasn't indicated that wetting himself is part of the fetish- he might actually genuinely be incontinent.

Woah, that is some reach!🤣

@greasyshoes

He's imposing his fetish on others by posting that review.

Not any more than seeing a gay relationship on TV, or seeing a gay pride parade in public, is gay people imposing their sexuality onto me, which they aren't.

Seeing something is seeing something. Having something imposed onto you is something else altogether.

Jesus Christ, gay people spent years making people understand that being gay isn't a fetish, and yet here you are, in 2022, apparently on 'the right side of history', comparing men with cross dressing fetishes to gay people.

@Hasselhoffsheadband

I'm interested to know where they would actually draw the line of 'inclusivity' then? Is that something they can clarify?

I think MNers may be about to try to test that by posting reviews covering every fetish known to man (and maybe even some new ones) and we'll soon see where their inclusivity ends. I suspect they draw the lines as follows: men who identify as women (and men generally) can get away with any fetish in the name of inclusivity, women posting anything that pushes any sort of boundaries will be deleted immediately.

Woah, that is some reach!🤣

No, it really isn't.

This could be an elderly man who is incontinent. So he likes wearing women's underwear (for whatever reason), but the fact that he is incontinent means he needs to use an incontinence pad, which is something he mentions in the review.

Nowhere is it suggested that he isn't actually incontinent.

Jesus Christ, gay people spent years making people understand that being gay isn't a fetish,

I know that being gay is not a fetish, and I never suggested it was.

and yet here you are, in 2022, apparently on 'the right side of history', comparing men with cross dressing fetishes to gay people.

I didn't compare cross dressers to gay people.

M&S have been enabling men parading their fetishes by leaving lingerie reviews for years. It’s inexplicable why they think this is a good idea

@greasyshoes

He's imposing his fetish on others by posting that review.

Not any more than seeing a gay relationship on TV, or seeing a gay pride parade in public, is gay people imposing their sexuality onto me, which they aren't.

Seeing something is seeing something. Having something imposed onto you is something else altogether.

I don’t understand why you jumped from men with fetishes to gay relationships - nobody here is talking about the latter or even mentioned it.

I’m not sure you’re fully grasping the issue being discussed here.

Do they sell electric toothbrushes or anything else that vibrates?

BTW that man knew females would be reading his review, he gives the ladies a shout-out at the end.

@Betty91

This is not just an AGP review, this is an M&S AGP review

@greasyshoes

He's imposing his fetish on others by posting that review.

Not any more than seeing a gay relationship on TV, or seeing a gay pride parade in public, is gay people imposing their sexuality onto me, which they aren't.

Seeing something is seeing something. Having something imposed onto you is something else altogether.

Being gay is a fetish is it? Up there with wearing women's and girls's sanitary wear, either ejaculating or urinating in it, then writing about it where anyone can accidentally see it. You're sounding more desperate (and ridiculous) by the minute.

When I see certain names, I just hit a mental "hide poster" button and scroll on by. It's a technique I'd recommend to anyone who is tempted to try to reason with homophobic misogynists.