M&S Reviews

[DevonTF]

Looking at period pants - and the first review is this.

Clearly getting a sexual thrill - and M&S have given it a platform. I reported, but still live - so I guess M&S are happily going along with this.

@greasyshoes

Woah, that is some reach!🤣

No, it really isn't.

This could be an elderly man who is incontinent. So he likes wearing women's underwear (for whatever reason), but the fact that he is incontinent means he needs to use an incontinence pad, which is something he mentions in the review.

Nowhere is it suggested that he isn't actually incontinent.

That's daft beyond words. And I don't think you believe it for a second

Oh give over greasyshoes this isn't about whether or not fetishes are allowed - this is a product review being used to show off a fetish for extra kicks. It's like someone heading over to John Lewis and rating the hoover based on how well it sucked him off.

These are period pants - ones I bought for my daughter too - and I went through the reviews with her when we bought them. I'm very glad this one wasn't one we came across. It's totally grim and we all know it. He's done it to get his rocks off and M&S are leaving it up there because they've addled their brains on Stonewall Training Manuals.

They aren’t moderating the reviews folks!!!!!!

Mens pants are being reviewed by MNers.

@greasyshoes

I know you have no idea about this, but women looking for period pants don't want to read a pervert's story about how he gets off on them.

First of all, as far as sexual fetishes go, wearing women's clothes and urinating into them is a really mild and vanilla one. There seems to be a lot of anger over this, and I'm not sure why. There's certainly no evidence that he's urinating himself in public, and no evidence that he's urinating on any else's clothing; just his own.

The second point is that I think a lot of people are reading stuff into this, which is why calling him a "pervert" is a tad extreme. We know he is a cross-dressing man, and we know he sometimes wets himself. However, he hasn't indicated this is a sexual thing (there is no mention of sexual arousal, or sex, anywhere in the review). Even if the cross dressing is a sexual thing for him, he hasn't indicated that wetting himself is part of the fetish- he might actually genuinely be incontinent.

I am a bit surprised that M&S would allow a review like this, but I don't find it to be particularly extreme or upsetting.

It's amazing how people supporting the ideology can end up defending rapists, sex offenders in spas, and perverts. And yet still think that they might be on the right side of history.

That's not true. I would never support someone imposing their fetish onto others, and I would never support a rapist, pervert, or sex offender in a spa.

I would never support someone imposing their fetish on others

This is what you're doing. He's making women quietly trying to buy underwear pay attention to him and his fetish. It's online exhibitionism. You should try reading it a bit more carefully, perhaps?

And yes, there does "seem to be a lot of anger" as you rather patronisingly observe. I first saw an erect penis as a child in a supermarket, because its sad creep of an owner chose to involve me in his fetish. I don't care if it's 'vanilla' or 'mild' - I don't want to know about it.

I don't make strangers pay attention to my fantasises (well I do actually, I'm an author, but I don't write sad porn on shopping websites, and if I did I doubt, being female, that it would be so readily indulged - as usual, it goes one way.)

I have also worked in a shop and had a man insist on trying women's dresses on and being too young (17) to tell him to piss off.

I have zero fucking interest in the sexual fetishes of random men, and I resent being made to read them on an effing M&S underwear page. Why are you trying to excuse this behaviour?

@DobbyTheHouseElk

They aren’t moderating the reviews folks!!!!!!

Mens pants are being reviewed by MNers.

Why wouldn’t they? Who buys all the flipping things for the menz - we do!

@IcakethereforeIam

Do they sell electric toothbrushes or anything else that vibrates?

BTW that man knew females would be reading his review, he gives the ladies a shout-out at the end.

Good idea! Has anyone worked out if it is possible to leave a review without logging into an account?

No answer from Steve to me yet, but encouraged that the exec team are being forced to discuss it.
I raised brand values and safe guarding....

I stopped using their changing rooms when this started happening. Anything would get tried on at home. In fact, I rarely use changing rooms any more.

@fieldmarshallzhukovscoat

I changed the gender and a couple of other words, and posted against a 3 pack of men's undies - it got through! This establishment has been truly captured.

Time for me to shop elsewhere me thinks.

Good work

@Tortabella

Excellent post pombear

I did sometimes buy clothes online from M&S but won't if this review stands. I have had to deal with enough creepy behaviour from various men in my lifetime, since childhood, I'm not going to give money to a company who exposes me to it when I'm trying to buy underwear.

Their inability to understand how this behaviour affects women is so depressingly telling.

I vaguely remember the original brewhaha over rosie huntington-whiteley collection. All the men practically drooling over knickers. It was back then 2018 I think that I quit buying anything from m and s. If they wont keep changing rooms single sex and cant guarantee semen free underwear I cant in good conscience buy anything there. Who knows what's on it.

Sadly I never spent much in there so I guess they wont go broke just yet.

For knickers now I get multipacks from Asda or Tesco or whatever biggish store I'm in. For bras I'm tending to debenham online at the moment. But that will change if my black light ever shows disturbing stains.

If they wont keep changing rooms single sex

Changing rooms in M&S are single sex. They all exist as standalone booths.

and cant guarantee semen free underwear I cant in good conscience buy anything there. Who knows what's on it.

I'm bemused by this one because there's no reason to think this is a problem specific to M&S. Someone could equally try to contaminate clothes in Tesco or Asda. Personally though, I tend to be far more concerned with food in supermarkets being contaminated, and there are a few documented cases of that happening.

Before someone asks, I am not a M&S employee.

stand alone booths? A flimsy wee curtain isn’t going to do it for me. There isn’t always someone in the door - so who is going to come running if a woman is flashed or someone ‘accidentally’ flips open the curtain ?

As I said greasy, "I know you have no idea about this, but women looking for period pants don't want to read a pervert's story about how he gets off on them."

Even if you think it's 'mild' even if you think it's 'vanilla', even if you think making young girls read the fetish views of adult men is acceptable and even if you are trying to force some kind of comparison with being gay, women still don't want to read it.

You obviously don't understand that.
And yes, you are defending it. Also if a man is incontinent, he will be buying pants designed for men and male anatomy, not women and their periods.

@greasyshoes

If they wont keep changing rooms single sex

Changing rooms in M&S are single sex. They all exist as standalone booths.

and cant guarantee semen free underwear I cant in good conscience buy anything there. Who knows what's on it.

I'm bemused by this one because there's no reason to think this is a problem specific to M&S. Someone could equally try to contaminate clothes in Tesco or Asda. Personally though, I tend to be far more concerned with food in supermarkets being contaminated, and there are a few documented cases of that happening.

Before someone asks, I am not a M&S employee.

Sigh, we have been through this multiple times now. Not every store has stand alone booths, and even if they do, simply because men have access they could very easily put a camera in one. Now you'll say a camera, my God they are huge dont be silly, and I reply for around £40 you can buy a tiny camera that looks like a screw head. Just Google that.

In the tesco and Asda etc you can buy multipacks of knickers that are obviously sealed and have tamper proof seals at that.
What this means is I buy cheap as fuck knickers, when once upon a time I would have bought considerably more expensive ones from m and s but now they let fetishists in and I'd prefer not to be a part of that.

We both lose, m and s lose my custom, I lose out on decent underwear.
And food being contaminated is a different matter.

So long Marks & Spencers -
Full Cup Jacquard Bra
Bikini knickers
Cotton nighties
Socks
Jeans
Coats
Lounge wear
Footwear
Hats, scarves & gloves
Purses & bags
Skincare
Perfume
Menswear
Mens aftershave, I purchased their fragrances for all males I know as I highly rated them
Homeware
Greetings cards & accessories
Delivered flowers for the mother in law & husbands auntie
Delivered birthday/anniversary/Christmas gifts for family & friends
Swiss chocolates
Food
Rose Prosecco

Many women spend at Marks, for themselves, their children, their partners, their partners family & friends. I’ve always rated Marks & banged on about them to friends & family who in turn go on to purchase from there. That ends now, FUCK YOU MARKS & SPENCER I will take my business else where.

Why, whenever gross fetishes are discussed, do certain posters always show up with key words such as “vanilla” and it’s only a mild one, etc. It is a script.

Don’t worry greasy. We aren’t concerned you are an m&s troll. Just a bog standard troll with no comprehension or critical thinking skills.

There are special shops for fetish wear… but going to a high st store seems to add a little je ne sais pas to it, no?

Personally though, I tend to be far more concerned with food in supermarkets being contaminated, and there are a few documented cases of that happening.

Yes well it's not men's underwear they are wanking off into, it's women's.

@Norma27

Don’t worry greasy. We aren’t concerned you are an m&s troll. Just a bog standard troll with no comprehension or critical thinking skills.

Not every store has stand alone booths, and even if they do, simply because men have access they could very easily put a camera in one.

A male cleaner could put a camera in a changing room. A woman could put a camera in a changing room.

In the tesco and Asda etc you can buy multipacks of knickers that are obviously sealed and have tamper proof seals at that.

You could also buy your underwear online, which means it probably hasn't been displayed in a shop.

stand alone booths? A flimsy wee curtain isn’t going to do it for me. There isn’t always someone in the door - so who is going to come running if a woman is flashed or someone ‘accidentally’ flips open the curtain ?

The last M&S I went to had booths that could be locked. I don't know if there's a way to know in advance which shops have curtains and which don't, though.

Marks & Spencers leading the charge in erasing women & their rights, eroding child safe guarding, normalising paraphilias.

Don't shops care about their brand image.

The earlier knicker reviews, gave me the impression that the M&S brand is tawdry. If browsing on the High Street it is no longer a shop I go into.

Desperate to minimise this, aren't you greasy?

If men have unfettered access to female private spaces, voyeurism, exhibitionism, male dominance and coercion becomes part of it.

You could also buy your underwear online, which means it probably hasn't been displayed in a shop.

... which is the entire purpose of this thread. 🙄

Defending the indefensible.