MA: Yes, I think, to give an example, is p. (), because I thought that it was claiming this would cause trans people to come into spaces and that would be a risk to women, and I didn't think that was the sort of thing you should bring into the office even if you campaign on it outside.
BC: One question is whether this is offensive, and one is whether it's normal in the office. But you didn't investigate the latter?
MA: I can't say whether it was or wasn't but other witnesses have indicated that it was.
BC: We can look at that (not sure it's right). But what is offensive, and you highlighted this. So are we picking that as the most offensive?
MA: No. I am going through it now to identify what is most offensive because I didn't sit down and figure that out. I'm trying to see now and I might well find other things.
BC: Stick with that example. Did I understand you think it's offensive because it suggests there may be harms arising from making SSS open to TW?
MA: Y
BC: You understood because it's at the top of the page that it was an answer to a question that the government had asked?
MA: Y
BC: Implicit in the question that the government doesn't think women should lose male-free spaces?
MA: Y
BC: And you see the govt saying they wouldn't remove those SSS?
MA: Y
BC: But... you tell me. Did you really read this carefully?
MA: I didn't read it carefully, going through every paragraph. I read through it and came away thinking it shouldn't be in the workspace. That was sum total of looking at it on my screen.
BC: Did you understand that the essential point is that even though there may be no proposal to remove the SSS, the effect would be that it would be more difficult for orgs to know where they are and enforce them?
MA: I understand that is the essential point.
BC: Tell me, is there anything in the remainder that you regard as more offensive?
MA: Let me go through it then, Mr Cooper.
BC: