Emma Watson's dig at JKR

[IamSarah]

It appears she said at the BAFTAs 'I am here for all of the witches... bar one'

Disappointing but not unexpected.

twitter.com/emwatsonbestof/status/1503505167207084034?s=21

So more bitch than witch these days, which is a shame for someone who actively markets herself as a feminist.

'' More bitch than witch'' but at the same time you're implying Emma's not being a feminist?
Serious question - can some of you actually hear yourselves?!

I think everyone should have a right to express their opinion, but these sly little digs from Emma Watson are so lacking in class.

It's just not necessary.

Emma Watson has the fame and fortune that she does because of JK Rowling. As a ten year old child she had a physical resemblance to the fictional character of Hermione Granger and an annoying know-it-all personality which fit the character very well. I suspect that the casting agents also correctly guessed that she would grow up to be very good looking. Because of this she was cast in a lead role in an eight film adaptation of one of the most successful book series ever written. It was an astonishing stroke of good fortune for someone who, as her subsequent work shows, can't really act.

She might disagree with JK Rowling on the trans issue, which she is entitled to do, and she might feel strongly compelled to express her views about trans people's rights and about feminism, which she is also entitled to do.

But the little personal digs at the woman who made her famous (without ever being daring enough to come out and say "JK Rowling is a horrible TERF") are just unnecessary, mean and childish.

It's like, "I'm famous now, need to stay relevant, JK Rowling is persona non grata in the circles I move in, so I need to demonstrate my cool credentials and my loyalty to the pack by dissing her."

I still don't understand why Rebel Wilson said EW isn't a feminist she's a witch.

What was the joke?

So women are not allowed to criticize other women - ever? Because feminism?

Of course we can.
It's just the absolute hypocrisy /double standards that baffle me.

@FortunaMajor

I'm no fan, but to me it looks like she says "by the way" not "bar one".

Either way, if you're slagging someone off in public, have the guts to say it out loud.

I've no idea what she said so hopefully it is something like by the way

I can't go back and rebook cos I keep getting distracted by the smug...

Rel

Relook....bloomin phone

@SpinningTheSeedsOfLove

I still don't understand why Rebel Wilson said EW isn't a feminist she's a witch.

What was the joke?

Quite: Smuggo talks to smuggo.

Thanks @ATeamAmy, I haven't seen The Queen's Gambit.

@EeeICouldRipATissue

So women are not allowed to criticize other women - ever? Because feminism?

Of course we can.
It's just the absolute hypocrisy /double standards that baffle me.

What double standards?

I've always thought Watson was a vacuous, simpering, virtue signalling airhead. That was long, long, long before all of this blew up.

Emma Watson has always come across to me as smug, arrogant and educated beyond her intelligence, so her recent shannanigans and now this, come as no surprise.

Afshan Azad has been far more graceful and classy in her response to the whole furore.

@Chersfrozenface you made me laugh, awesome clapback there :-)

What double standards?

Like on this thread - just one example is about her being unkind.
Really, seriously?!
Isn't it women don't have to be kind?!
Funny that everybody is ignoring the posts like that.
I know we're not a hive kind before anyone says, but there's a definite theme of hypocrisy running through here.

Oh and the more bitch than witch comment
I could go on
Although I won't as these examples are probably going to get dismissed as A OK

Eeel I consider myself to be different kind of feminist to EW because I don't seek to undermine women's sex based rights or dismiss the testimonies of real life women who have survived DV as if they are irrelevant to the discussion and unimportant. What's best for women is at the centre of 'my' feminism, not what is best for some men.
So yes, I will call EW bitchy. I would also refer to some men as being bitchy. EW doesn't deserve for other women to be nice to her or never criticise her because she is female

Hive mind that should read!

EW doesn't deserve for other women to be nice to her or never criticise her because she is female

Agree.
Surely you can agree that works both ways though?
People are allowed to criticise JK as well if they don't agree.
(I do not mean threats or anything like that before anyone says, I definitely think they are never Ok)

Nah! We're just human, @EeeICouldRipATissue

We like and dislike people for all sorts of reasons. Some are kind, some are not.

Shoot us all now!

I get the impression that Emma Watson is positioning herself to shift her job description gradually from acting (for which she really doesn't have much aptitude, and is very age/appearance dependent) to activism. She is still using JKR, to whom she owes her fame, to project her own shiny, glittery rainbow credentials.

When you look at PurgatoryofPotholes post above, it's easy to see why we should, as feminists with an interest in safeguarding, be concerned. Beyond the pretty dresses and red-carpet smiles her self-serving virtue-signalling has a dark and dangerous underside.

Some are kind, some are not.
Shoot us all now!

That's a misunderstanding of what was said - it was berating her for not being kind enough.
Whenever that's said by a non '' GC'' viewpoint it's immediately scorned and talk about' 'we don't have to be kind' ' or not pandering to hurty feelz.
This time though it's let slide, and excused away.
Why?
Of course there are kind people and not kind people.
Never said otherwise.

Pressed too soon
As I said it's the laughable double standards I was talking about, nothing else

Hate to break this one to you but, as an Ivy League alumnus, I’m going to take a punt she’s a damn lot more intelligent than most of the posters here.

Well-educated doesn't necessarily mean more intelligent. Consider the current prime minister, for example.

@ATeamAmy

Thats unlikely to be a massive casting option because fuckability is still a factor. Very few actors are given or can carry character roles which has no sexual tension or relationship conflict element and are box office winners. So a male even with the best plastic surgeon's is going to have a limited role offers.

Don't know you saw Inventing Anna, but Laverne Cox* took the role of a biological female who exists in real life, and was the only character that was shown having a sex life/being overtly sexy. Perhaps as long as biological female black actors are the only ones missing out on such roles, the likes of Watson can bask in the glow her industry's "inclusivity".

*Another terrible actor, but then I suppose they have a double acting job to do.

Have not seen Inventing Anna or know LC. But if you noticed the lack of relationships in the character development of the other roles long term its going to be a problem. Because the viewer becomes conscious of being sold a message rather than being told a story.

I have googled Inventing Anna and its loosely based on real life? Casting a male as an actual Black Woman post BLM and getting no comments on racist tropes? I am guessing diversity casting ranking was a little male orientated.

LC is 50 (?) playing I presume not a 50 year old? Google gave me the cast list. Compare and contrast the LC brand with some of the others. I admire the cohesiveness of the presentation. Whoever wrote LC's bio (sales pitch) and picked the headshot (body shot with award) understands the branding. The red dress ties to the red dress in the clip, and the sales pitch is first, awards and ground breaking.

LC is also producing this, (if not a empty title) is where the L gains advantage in being able to craft a narrative and make opportunities happen. Thats someone who is putting the work in the background.

m.imdb.com/title/tt8740976/fullcredits/cast?ref_=m_ttfc_3

@EeeICouldRipATissue

Pressed too soon As I said it's the laughable double standards I was talking about, nothing else

I think you misunderstood me. Those double standards are across the MN board, just as they are in real life.

You could be comparing one poster to themselves or to any other poster. I don't know. What I do know is that MN posters, GC or otherwise, are as human as anyone else, have their own biases, foibles, inconsistencies, pleasant and unpleasant attributes. We aren't more or less 'nice/kind' just because we post here.

Twitter's headline now saying she said 'by the way'. I wonder if her publicists have contacted them? Interesting if so, given how hostile Twitter's sidebar of shame is to JKR - you'd think they'd jump at the chance to say Watson was 'throwing shade' on Rowling. Maybe they are sensing the tide is turning. And whilst I obviously appreciate what's happening here and in the USA, Canada, Scotland is not in the same league of horror as what's happening to free speech in Russia, the sight on TV of men arresting and silencing brave women trying to speak out in Russia may also be making some student activists rethink their attitude to free speech, #nodebate, doxxing, sacking, attacking: 'Hans, are we the baddies?"