Emma Watson's dig at JKR

[IamSarah]

It appears she said at the BAFTAs 'I am here for all of the witches... bar one'

Disappointing but not unexpected.

twitter.com/emwatsonbestof/status/1503505167207084034?s=21

@LampLighter414

Well said Emma

Millions of people agree with you!

So you're in no doubt that this was directed at JKR, then?

@Janesmom
Hate to break this one to you but, as an Ivy League alumnus, I’m going to take a punt she’s a damn lot more intelligent than most of the posters here.

Isn't Pennsylvania in the Ivy League?
cough-Lia Thomas-cough

Yes it was in response to Rebel Wilson and it does look like she’s said “bar one”. She may have meant Wilson but she must know that it would be interpreted as against JK, so she shouldn’t have said it.

I remember watching the first HP film and being aghast at how bad an actress she was.

This thread is quite peculiar but it does show how much of the trans rights debate is froth. There's no real evidence that what Emma Watson said here was a dig at JKR, and people are straining to guess what words she mouthed. There is an obvious reason for what Emma Watson said, which is as a retort to her introduction by Rebel Wilson, but people are jumping to odd conclusions and then insulting someone who (probably) didn't say what they think she said.

In the end, it just shows to me that debate and discussion would be so much healthier if we weren't having these concocted debates arising from social media.

@LizzieSiddal

Yes it was in response to Rebel Wilson and it does look like she’s said “bar one”. She may have meant Wilson but she must know that it would be interpreted as against JK, so she shouldn’t have said it.

I remember watching the first HP film and being aghast at how bad an actress she was.

I don’t agree with her views on trans this or that or whatever but to be absolutely fair to her she wasn’t exactly in fantastic acting company. I’ve often wondered that those three children were the absolute best in the country that they could find to play those characters, especially when the adult cast was so packed full of good actors.

So we’re fighting for womens rights by bringing another down? Seriously you’re all playing into the medias hands with this, falling over yourselves at the potential ‘shade’. Everyone is constantly being played off left, right & centre but you can’t see it.

Wow! Dissing the woman who made her

I seriously do not get this attitude at all.
So because she worked for her years ago, that means she should forever be indebted to her, never disagree, never fall out, whatever?!
She's a grown woman. With a mind of her own.
The way she's infantalised on here is awful.

Whatever she said was scripted. All a bit pathetic.

What a brat. I can't watch anything with her in it anymore.

@LittleDiaries

The saying "biting the hand that feeds you" comes to mind. Never a good move. She seems to have forgotten that she is where she is - a privileged wealthy, educated woman, who can do whatever she wants with her life and career now, thanks to J K Rowling. Without JKR she would still be a jobbing actor, like the majority of the profession.

I think she would have given up on acting by now if she hadn’t had the leg up from JKR because she’s an absolutely shite actress. I’m told she isn’t rated by fellow thesps and it must be galling for the talented actors out there without the funds (and a particular lucky break) to have to watch her maul every script.

Can I just point out, it is perfectly possible to be intelligent and a complete idiot.

“ In the end, it just shows to me that debate and discussion would be so much healthier if we weren't having these concocted debates arising from social media.”

True, but sadly it seems that many people’s lives are constant performances played out on SM, which is probably why rational thought has flown away for so many people.

, So we’re fighting for womens rights by bringing another down?*

Exactly.
Feminism board my arse.

@ImInStealthMode

I wonder if Ms Watson will feel differently when Hollywood (almost inevitably) starts casting TW in female lead roles, and like many Sportswomen she finds herself and her peers even further disadvantaged in their professional field.

Won't happen except in roles where they're trying to make a point. They cast those roles for eye candy, almost solely for heterosexual men, and they know well enough what a woman is when it comes to that.

What a brat

She's a fully grown woman in her thirties.

@MoniJitchell

Hate to break this one to you but, as an Ivy League alumnus, I’m going to take a punt she’s a damn lot more intelligent than most of the posters here.

George Dubya Bush attended both Harvard and Yale. It doesn't appear that intelligence is necessarily a prerequisite.

Bush was a legacy student, Watson got in through her A level results.

@backintothefire I've now seen earlier comments that show this is completely misquoted and made up to get all of you angry and use it as an opportunity to attack her personally in every way

Regardless if she had indeed said this inaccurate "bar one" phrase and not "by the way" (what she clearly actually says if you watch the video) I would still support her!

@MrsWooster

Janesmom “Hate to break this one to you but, as an Ivy League alumnus, I’m going to take a punt she’s a damn lot more intelligent than most of the posters here.” You ain’t frum round here, are ye?

😂

Nope!

We have Oxford alumni.

@ImInStealthMode

I wonder if Ms Watson will feel differently when Hollywood (almost inevitably) starts casting TW in female lead roles, and like many Sportswomen she finds herself and her peers even further disadvantaged in their professional field.

Thats unlikely to be a massive casting option because fuckability is still a factor. Very few actors are given or can carry character roles which has no sexual tension or relationship conflict element and are box office winners. So a male even with the best plastic surgeon's is going to have a limited role offers.

Even if we are unaware of our social bias underlying theme matter. Whats the likelihood that the next 007 be a woman who shaggs her way through the male beautiful&helpless&rescued population? Low IMO because 007 is not a shooter-game or superhero action movie, is it? Its white knight saves the world and the princess movie. Princess/Queen saves prince is a hard sell at the box office. But then EW is aging out of the princess roles.

EW is getting to that age when most leading lady roles will be younger and decent story lines for older women leads are harder to finance.
So having a headline and maintaining a younger fanbase will be very important in her future career progressions. If Hollywood is spending millions they want some guarantee of a box office success.
If young people are not reminded she is anti-JKR which is now part of her EW public branding they will associate her with HP which everyone is now obliged to be kind and hate.

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Whilst in Britain anti-carceral justice is likely to be shrugged off as the studentcause de jour, there is evidence that US-style anti-carceral values are being imposed by woke NGOs in the developing world. The full decriminalisation of prostitution has been enthusiastically taken up by many working in international development; this approach reframes what feminists have traditionally seen as commercial sexual exploitation as instead empowered individuals exercising their agency. The removal of criminal sanctions for pimps, brothel-keepers and punters is central to US-style anti-carceral justice.

In 2018, international and domestic NGOs collaborated to prevent the passing of the Trafficking of Persons Bill in India. This was heralded as a victory by the Netherlands-based Mama Cash [my bold], which claimed the bill, “conflated trafficking with sex work, which would have increased stigma, discrimination and violence against sex workers, reduced their autonomy and agency, and threatened their human rights”.

The campaign, part funded by Mama Cash, [my bold] undermined the work of grassroots feminist activists in India like Vaishnavi Sundar. After years of working to stop the sex trade, Sundar, a documentary film-maker and activist based in Chennai, sees the halting of the anti-trafficking bill as a form of ideological imperialism:

“In a country that is known for its ineffectual jurisprudence where women fight for three or four decades for any legal recourse, it is disquieting to see Western organisations like Mama Cash siding with groups that further amplify women’s sexual exploitation. While ‘sex work’ may benefit a minority group, to halt a bill that could potentially save thousands of children over semantics is cruel and anti-women.”

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This is such an important post. That the western centric, luxury beliefs of the likes of Watson are being imposed on societies that neither wants them or needs them is nothing short of a modern day missionary movement. And who benefits from developing world children being unprotected? Who benefits when the gatekeepers of children - women - are weakened and exploited. Which P word never seems very far from this disgusting genderist movement?

@Mysterian

The idea that whatever Emma Watson ever says is somehow an attack on JKR is getting pretty ridiculous and embarrassing.

I agree with this.

I’m not a fan of hers but this getting ridiculous. It’s all very playground bitchiness.

I got a strong libfem vibe from her even before she spoke. Her need to make a point seemed to ooze out of her. Let her make it, it only serves to distance her further from the women she pretends to represents and closer towards the men she is pandering to.

It may come as a disappointment to her and her fans but Emma Watson is not a feminist icon of our time and will be mostly remembered as the slightly annoying and one trick pony, Hermione whose luck as a child actress turned when cast for the role written by the Great Queen, JKR.

Why does everyone keep infantilising her, she's in her 30s.

I thought she said “by the way”. I also think it’s a bit of a leap to assume that “bar one” would be a dig at JKR, rather than a joke with Rebel Wilson.

(I am firmly pro-JKR, I just don’t think there’s enough to get worked up about here).

but she is only making herself look foolish and unkind.
Seriously?!
The double standards on here are actually getting funny.
It's usually '' Women don't have to be kind! ''
and talk of hurty feelz.
A woman people don't agree with speaks, and it's she's not being kind enough?!
Beggars belief.